Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

A few facts. And I have no idea on the contract details.

But before ANY vax was proved to work, let alone be approved, the UK spent £1 Billion securing orders of 357 million doses, from 6 different makers, across 4 formats.

Source. Leader of the Vax delivery programme.

I have no dog in this Vax Nat fight, but it seems the UK, by hook or by crook, grabbed the whole thing early, and hard. Cos once the doses were secured, they also spent gazillons in getting production ramped up. Fujifim, (no, beyond me as well), were used to help produce 70 million doses between 4 and 6 months.

It wouldn’t be so bad if the useless buggers even used the AZ vaccine.....

 

[Alan Whittle]

I have no idea on the contract details.

No one on this thread has.Least of all the ones obsessed by them.

 

[tsubaki]

When have we stolen a companies assets or IPR.....

it happens all the time with rail franchises where the government terminates a contract because of breaches, but Railtrack was probably the biggest recent one (and they were right to do it, too)

 

[roydo]

It wouldn’t be so bad if the useless buggers even used the AZ vaccine.....

She was very scathing about the stuff macron et al said.

But at the end of the day, politicians in the EU made mistakes that will lead to needless deaths. The exact same happened here.

There are no political heroes here mate.

 

[Neiler]

hahaha....enacting an article designed for wartime is what she is proposing. But anyway, even though France and Germany have their own reasons for supporting her, elections and reputation, it’s not yet actually assured that this will be enacted. My guess is that it won’t be because the repercussions far outweigh any benefit.....

The US enacted an article in statute from the 40s to block vaccine exports mate.

I hope it’s not enacted, I blame AZ for all this they entered into duplicitous contracts with the EU and UK, both regions have different opinions on those contracts - that’s the issue. The UK has gone protectionilist on exports, EU hasn’t. Clearly the right thing to do is open dialogue and find a middle ground.

I wouldn’t be to worried to of any impact to be honest,

 

[peteblue]

She was very scathing about the stuff macron et al said.

But at the end of the day, politicians in the EU made mistakes that will lead to needless deaths. The exact same happened here.

There are no political heroes here mate.

Indeed.....but we can always vote ours out of office....not so at the EU in Brussels.....

 

[peteblue]

The US enacted an article in statute from the 40s to block vaccine exports mate.

I hope it’s not enacted, I blame AZ for all this they entered into duplicitous contracts with the EU and UK, both regions have different opinions on those contracts - that’s the issue. The UK has gone protectionilist on exports, EU hasn’t. Clearly the right thing to do is open dialogue and find a middle ground.

I wouldn’t be to worried to of any impact to be honest,

AZ have done nothing wrong, they will not be taken to court and they will not be fined. HoweverAZ may well have a case against certain parts of the EU for reputational damages......

 

[Tubey]

A few facts. And I have no idea on the contract details.

But before ANY vax was proved to work, let alone be approved, the UK spent £1 Billion securing orders of 357 million doses, from 6 different makers, across 4 formats.

Source. Leader of the Vax delivery programme.

I have no dog in this Vax Nat fight, but it seems the UK, by hook or by crook, grabbed the whole thing early, and hard. Cos once the doses were secured, they also spent gazillons in getting production ramped up. Fujifim, (no, beyond me as well), were used to help produce 70 million doses between 4 and 6 months.

Fairly simple - the UK nailed the vaccines, got everything else imaginable wrong.

The only reason anyone would say the UK did anything but nail the vaccines is due to political bias, and vice versa when it comes to the many, many, many Tory failings.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Where is that modern innovative technology gone to mange post Brexit seamless border.

Brexit: 71 pages of paperwork for 1 lorry of fish

How new rules on exporting to the European Union have affected a British fishing firm.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Alan Whittle]

Indeed.....but we can always vote ours out of office....not so at the EU in Brussels.....

Individual countries could vote to leave the EU if they were unsatisfied by the vaccine roll out though. Wonder how many will?

 

[Neiler]

AZ have done nothing wrong, they will not be taken to court and they will not be fined. HoweverAZ may well have a case against certain parts of the EU for reputational damages......

AZ have done something wrong, they will be taken to court and they will be fined. HoweverAZ will have no case against certain parts of the EU and AZ will have massive reputational damage......

See how that works!

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

At least the US are brave enough to say what they are doing, no vaccines are leaving the country until we’re ok, they had the guts even to enact statute. I don’t agree with it, but at least they aren’t hiding behind skirts.

As said before China and Russia benefit massively from this vaccine war in the west... They will point the finger and influence against the I'm alright Jacks...

 

[peteblue]

AZ have done something wrong, they will be taken to court and they will be fined. HoweverAZ will have no case against certain parts of the EU and AZ will have massive reputational damage......

See how that works!

Merely turning it around to show black is white may be fun on an Internet forum, but legally AZ will be bombproof....

 

[Alan Whittle]

Merely turning it around to show black is white may be fun on an Internet forum, but legally AZ will be bombproof....

because..... ?

 

[Neiler]

Merely turning it around to show black is white may be fun on an Internet forum, but legally AZ will be bombproof....

My dear friend, everyone has rights within the law, nothing is bomb proof.