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[Jebus_lives]

Europe's Vaccine Disaster: Commission President Ursula von der Leyen Seeks to Duck Responsibility

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is trying to get out of the firing line as anger grows over the EU's botched vaccine rollout. It's not the first time in her career that she has sought to evade responsibility.

www.spiegel.de

Spiegel putting the boot in.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

whatever, all I’d point out is that some of us “experts” mentioned these issues when they first said they were going to do this - so perhaps we do know something about this

I have no doubt that as a Virologist that you and the other experts have applied the same rigour to your epidemiological studies of Covid-19 mutation as you did to the analysis of EU contract law and its application in relation to AstraZenica.

 

[Prevenger17]

In life you worry about your family first, which is what is driving the comments from @Bruce Wayne , then you worry about yourself, then your friends and colleagues, then the area in which you live, then your country, then other countries that need help. Anyone saying otherwise is telling porkies.....

Well that's partially true. But I think you can care about your family and friends and not be obnoxious about other people's misfortunes at the same time, which I think was the point Bruce was trying to make.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

In life you worry about your family first, which is what is driving the comments from @Bruce Wayne , then you worry about yourself, then your friends and colleagues, then the area in which you live, then your country, then other countries that need help. Anyone saying otherwise is telling porkies.....

As you know though Pete, the problem in this situation is that if you are worrying about your family then you have to worry about other families too as we are all connected.

 

[tsubaki]

I have no doubt that as a Virologist that you and the other experts have applied the same rigour to your epidemiological studies of Covid-19 mutation as you did to the analysis of EU contract law and its application in relation to AstraZenica.

well that’s just ludicrous

 

[tsubaki]

2.2 million have died, or don’t the others count.....

well if you want to hang that figure around Johnson’s neck pete, be my guest

@davek have you heard this? he’s twenty times the murderer now

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

well that’s just ludicrous

Agreed, you are clearly no expert in these matters.

 

[peteblue]

As you know though Pete, the problem in this situation is that if you are worrying about your family then you have to worry about other families too as we are all connected.

Indeed, which is why I keep saying that the EU should be focusing on manufacture not trying to steal vaccines ordered and paid for by others. I have absolutely no doubt that the U.K. will help the EU any way it can. I have absolutely no doubt that the EU would refuse to do similar.....

 

[tsubaki]

Agreed, you are clearly no expert in these matters.

would you listen even if I was? probably not

 

[peteblue]

Well that's partially true. But I think you can care about your family and friends and not be obnoxious about other people's misfortunes at the same time, which I think was the point Bruce was trying to make.

And that’s a fair point, and while I will apologise for perhaps doing so, it was not the people of Europe who were my target, but the EU institution and its bureaucracy.....

 

[tsubaki]

Indeed, which is why I keep saying that the EU should be focusing on manufacture not trying to steal vaccines ordered and paid for by others. I have absolutely no doubt that the U.K. will help the EU any way it can. I have absolutely no doubt that the EU would refuse to do similar.....

a reminder to everyone on the thread that Pfizer’s vaccine is made in the EU, as is some of AZs

 

[Jebus_lives]

I have no doubt that as a Virologist that you and the other experts have applied the same rigour to your epidemiological studies of Covid-19 mutation as you did to the analysis of EU contract law and its application in relation to AstraZenica.

I'd like to think I have.

 

[spectateur]

Europe's Vaccine Disaster: Commission President Ursula von der Leyen Seeks to Duck Responsibility

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is trying to get out of the firing line as anger grows over the EU's botched vaccine rollout. It's not the first time in her career that she has sought to evade responsibility.

www.spiegel.de

Spiegel putting the boot in.

And rightly so.
This lady and GBs Johnson appear to have a similar success rate in previous jobs leading up to their present one.

 

[Prevenger17]

And that’s a fair point, and while I will apologise for perhaps doing so, it was not the people of Europe who were my target, but the EU institution and its bureaucracy.....

And Tehran probably

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

would you listen even if I was? probably not

You seem like a reasonably intelligent chap and I do not discount all of your posts. As for expertise, I take a broad view.