Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

Bruce, can you tell me how the U.K. leaving the Eu will result in tens of millions of people across Europe not getting a vaccine. Now maybe, just once, you can point the finger at the real villains of the piece in Brussels. The EU would have kept you in total ignorance of this cock up if it wasn’t so visible because the U.K. is rolling the stuff out....Brexit has done the whole of Europe a favour here.....

I don't think many here would argue that the vaccination program in Europe hasn't been a complete balls up. What I, and perhaps others, take umbrage at is your apparent reveling in the turmoil caused across Europe, simply because of your hatred for the EU.

 

[tsubaki]

It seems that some GOT experts don't have a sense of humour

100000+ have died, and how the government have responded to this isn’t a laughing matter

 

[tsubaki]

I don't think many here would argue that the vaccination program in Europe hasn't been a complete balls up. What I, and perhaps others, take umbrage at is your apparent reveling in the turmoil caused across Europe, simply because of your hatred for the EU.

TBF I think in Petes case there is at least as much of a wish to decoy away from his lots handling of this as there is about anything about hating the EU.

 

[edge]

It goes largely unreported that my Great British Government has restricted the export so far of 174 medicines that are proven manage people who are poorly with COVID.

The sheer stupidity of not getting everyone vaccinated at the same rate and time is breathtaking. At best if this mindset continues we will be lockdown for months longer maybe degrees of lockdown for years, at worst and very possible we contribute to vaccine resistant virus

Its akin to locking yourself in a air tight cabin with limited oxygen on a submerged broken in half submarine, and crowing oh look I died last...

The reason they were stopped from export was that the drugs are all widely used in the NHS prior to COVID-19, and the government did not want them getting hoarded while the price went up making profiteers a fortune in the process.
While causing a shortage of dugs that were already meant for NHS use.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It goes largely unreported that my Great British Government has restricted the export so far of 174 medicines that are proven manage people who are poorly with COVID.

The sheer stupidity of not getting everyone vaccinated at the same rate and time is breathtaking. At best if this mindset continues we will be lockdown for months longer maybe degrees of lockdown for years, at worst and very possible we contribute to vaccine resistant virus

Its akin to locking yourself in a air tight cabin with limited oxygen on a submerged broken in half submarine, and crowing oh look I died last...

In an ideal situation, this would be the path followed, but its a start from zero against the clock matter. To produce enough vaccine to inoculate 7,874,965,825 people at once would be a mind-boggling effort that would have taken an age to achieve and that is not even taking into consideration the feasibility of developing specialist supply chains with adequate cold chain facilities across the developing world. I am not saying that I disagree with the sentiment or ideal case logic, just the feasibility.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

100000+ have died, and how the government have responded to this isn’t a laughing matter

A classic 'expert' response

 

[spectateur]

especially if the US join as expected.

Of course they will. Easy opportunity to expand their cultural and economic empire.
They will want to run it to their own advantage. Do you really want UK to be involved in that. Subservient to USA demands?

 

[Jebus_lives]

I don't think many here would argue that the vaccination program in Europe hasn't been a complete balls up. What I, and perhaps others, take umbrage at is your apparent reveling in the turmoil caused across Europe, simply because of your hatred for the EU.

Basket case of a thread this at the moment.

The most nationalistic and entrenched in the thread calling out criticism of the EU, by remainders, as evidence that europhiles won't criticise the EU.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Basket case of a thread this at the moment.

The most nationalistic and entrenched in the thread calling out criticism of the EU, by remainders, as evidence that europhiles won't criticise the EU.

It's pretty grim tbh.

 

[spectateur]

I don't think many here would argue that the vaccination program in Europe hasn't been a complete balls up. What I, and perhaps others, take umbrage at is your apparent reveling in the turmoil caused across Europe, simply because of your hatred for the EU.

I find it hard to believe that some people are gloating over this fiasco.
There is a dangerous shortage of vaccine.
Example. The University hospital of Limoges, the biggest hospital in the whole Li. mousin region is scheduled to carry out a mere 3250 vaccinations in the next 28 days. Thousands of over 75s remain un vaccinated.
And some people on here actually joking about the situation. GB 1 EU 0.

 

[Jebus_lives]

It's pretty grim tbh.

It's always a bit grim, but it seems to be a weird mix of schadenfreude and frothing anger.

Ultimately we will need the EU, they are our closest neighbors, they will be responsible for production of vaccines we will need and a continued supply of many other things. A sensible relationship with them is in everyone's interests.

We've left the EU. Fair enough. Yet we seem to be walking a line between pretending now we've left it doesnt exist, to wanting it's complete irradication.

 

[tsubaki]

A classic 'expert' response

whatever, all I’d point out is that some of us “experts” mentioned these issues when they first said they were going to do this - so perhaps we do know something about this

 

[peteblue]

It would be a strange thing to gloat over for anyone else, but Pete's complete disregard for non-British human life is fairly well known at this stage.

In life you worry about your family first, which is what is driving the comments from @Bruce Wayne , then you worry about yourself, then your friends and colleagues, then the area in which you live, then your country, then other countries that need help. Anyone saying otherwise is telling porkies.....

 

[peteblue]

The UK has applied to be part of the Pacific trade pact

A trading bloc, not a political entity, that gets my vote. And when the USA joins, as it will, we won’t even need an FTA....

 

[peteblue]

100000+ have died, and how the government have responded to this isn’t a laughing matter

2.2 million have died, or don’t the others count.....