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Agree with much of what you say. It was a choice but many signed it for the extra hours pay
If the Tories did try and change stuff you would like to think labour and the unions would unite it and fight it. Public demonstrations etc. Johnson buckles under pressure and constantly changes his mind
The fallacy of wait and see as below.
It would pass through parliament regardless of any Labour/Union objections.
Barn door horses bolted, duh!

Freedom though.
Brexit - Do want Sovereignty,

Brexiteer- Thank you so very much kind sir,

Brexit- Do want Brexit done,

Brexiteer- Here are the keys to the Kingdom,

Brexit- Now feck off!
 
Just as the rotting fishes can be glad they're British though...
It really is the problem with wishful thinking and 'wait and see' that the safeguards you hoped protect and prevent these things from happening are already reduced.

The Government has a huge majority so can force it through if necessary.

And the beauty is that once you frame anything in the context of Brexit it is backed unquestionably by a sizeable group of people (enforced by the complicity in the lie and a reaction to people saying 'i told you so).
 
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It really is the problem with wishful thinking and 'wait and see' that the safeguards you hoped protect and prevent these things from happening are reduced.

The Government has a huge majority so can force it through if necessary.

And the beauty is that once you frame anything in the context of Brexit it is backed unquestionably by a sizeable group of people (enforced by the complicity in the lie and a reaction to people saying 'i told you so).
I think that there is an added layer to the situation whereby Johnson's newfound Brexit genie will now have to be seen to grant wishes to the right wing nut-jobs. Changing regulations, because we can, to signal our "freedom". More than likely ones that get right up Brussel's noses, I would imagine. The whole project is so invested in achieving ideological objectives, that impacts and outcomes are largely irrelevant and will be dressed for public consumption as being to our long term benefit. A theory popularly referred to as "Wait and See" by some expert commentators.
 
Maybe she would like to read what the The Cornish Fish Producers think of the deal, they did not wait to see and they basically believe they have been shafted and sold for other interests, yet to be determined.

The devil is in the detail, in this case specifically the quotas for individual fish. Whilst overall the UK fishing industry will have more than doubled their quotas over the next 5 years, that isn't the case for Cornish guys, who predominantly fish within the 12 mile zone. In many cases their quotas haven't increased at all, especially in the high end products that fetch the best prices. They feel as though they've been stuffed by the Tories and rightly so.
 
Just as the rotting fishes can be glad they're British though...
That needs sorting out quickly. As usual with this government there is a lack of detail coming out as to what the problem is. Hopefully they are teething issues but it would be nice to know. It's in everyone's interest to get it sorted because the UK fish industry is losing income and the European supermarkets and fish merchants have some empty shelves and disappointed customers.
 
That needs sorting out quickly. As usual with this government there is a lack of detail coming out as to what the problem is. Hopefully they are teething issues but it would be nice to know. It's in everyone's interest to get it sorted because the UK fish industry is losing income and the European supermarkets and fish merchants have some empty shelves and disappointed customers.
We could've had parliamentary scrutiny of the deal, it was deliberately left to the last minute to prevent that.

Nevermind 'we got it done' (congratulations) and we should all move on and get behind this!
 
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