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[Jebus_lives]

Because, as the article says, while the Commission has collectively procured and approved the vaccines, the job of getting those vaccines in people's arms are down to national governments. The Czech government, for instance, have only just published their vaccination plan. I think I shared it previously, but this article provides a decent overview of the state of play across Europe

Corona in Europe - false start for the Netherlands at the European Pfizer Vaccination Championship

For Innovation Origins, Jelmer Visser tracks the movements of the coronary pandemic in Europe. This week: which countries score best (and worst) in vaccinating their populations?

innovationorigins.com

Not like Pete to blame the inadequate of individual governments on the EU.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Not like Pete to blame the inadequate of individual governments on the EU.

I mean you could argue that the EMA was slow to approve the vaccines, but it seems that many European governments dropped the ball on actually getting vaccines into people.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Brexit job exodus 'substantially less' than predicted, BoE governor says

Andrew Bailey updates MPs on how Brexit has gone so far and the problem he sees with EU demands on financial services.

news.sky.com

BOE Governor Bailey Warns Brexit Will Bring Big Economic Losses

Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey risked reigniting the politically charged debate over Brexit by predicting that the trade deal struck with the European Union could end up costing the U.K. economy the equivalent of more than 80 billion pounds ($109 billion).

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Jebus_lives]

I mean you could argue that the EMA was slow to approve the vaccines, but it seems that many European governments dropped the ball on actually getting vaccines into people.

Unlike the UK, other countries have been less reluctant to jump head first into the 'vaccinate our way out of this mess' hole.

The EU have been slow no doubt, and clearly member states who want to move quickly will have been frustrated by the pace of decision making, but they are responsible for public health beyond the negotiation of vaccine approval and have had the opportunity to do so - some have been much better than others.

The French decision to not undertake mass vaccination is baffling.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Unlike the UK, other countries have been less reluctant to jump head first into the 'vaccinate our way out of this mess' hole.

The EU have been slow no doubt, and clearly member states who want to move quickly will have been frustrated by the pace of decision making, but they are responsible for public health beyond the negotiation of vaccine approval and have had the opportunity to do so - some have been much better than others.

The French decision to not undertake mass vaccination is baffling.

It sounds like anti-vaxx sentiment is also very high in France, which could make it a real struggle there.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

There is emergency dispensation in European Union rules to allow individual country members and their own scientists to approve vaccine for domestic use.

 

[Blues Harp]

I'll go back to the 80s when I was involved. Derek Hatton, tony mulhearn, Terry fields had many a run in with them. It was their view and no one else mattered. If you weren't with them you were an enemy a class traitor they would try and intimidate you and make your life hell. Blame them and others like them for getting Thatcher in power for so long
Fast forward To Corbyn, John Mcdonnell in the last election. Momentum used the heavy mob tactics to back them and intimidate other MPs.. just on Merseyside that gave anti- semitic abuse to Ellman and berger forcing them out. They took over and installed their own thinking MPs.
Nothing wrong with that but they lost their own traditional vote in the North. Probably paving the way for this idiot to be re elected

Which mps did momentum "install"?
You are all over the place here lad.

 

[BlueDraka]

Which mps did momentum "install"?
You are all over the place here lad.

You are in dreamland ha here is how it goes
Infiltrate the local Labour consistency Party i.e. liverpool Riverside, Wavertree force out the moderates. Attack the sitting MP anti semitic abuse threatened them, start the deselected process. They resign. Install your own people as prospective MP

Louise Ellman is close to quitting Labour after stormy meeting of local party - The Jewish Chronicle

Liverpool Riverside MP says she is 'struggling with situation' as unpublished Labour report highlights antisemitism in her Merseyside constituency party

www.thejc.com

Just a few quotes from this article

On the day of the Liverpool Riverside party meeting, Mr Corbyn had told Sky News that he did not believe bullying “exists on a wide scale” within Labour

On the same day, Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell told London’s Evening Standard that the party could have supported Luciana Berger “more effectively.” They had listened but there was not enough action. “We are going to have to learn a lesson from that.”

Interviewed today on Andrew Marr’s BBC show, Labour Deputy Leader Tom Watson said he had handed Jeremy Corbyn a dossier of 50 cases of alleged antisemitism within Labour that he needed to act personally on.

Bury your head in the sand if you want but momentum and Corbyn made sure his idiot got elected with a massive majority. Not a fan of Starmer but until he deals with momentum in the Labour Party this idiot and his chums will get re elected

 

[peteblue]

I mean you could argue that the EMA was slow to approve the vaccines, but it seems that many European governments dropped the ball on actually getting vaccines into people.

Bruce, the EU made a mess of ordering vaccines and had the French pushing for their own, they spent more time haggling over price, and even now still haven’t approved the Oxford one. This is what the EU does, everything is slowed down.....

 

[peteblue]

There is emergency dispensation in European Union rules to allow individual country members and their own scientists to approve vaccine for domestic use.

And who has ordered the vaccines, who placed the orders ?....

 

[BlueDraka]

Which mps did momentum "install"?
You are all over the place here lad.

PS
Both Kim Johnson and Paula Barker both unison union officials which is well known in Liverpool for being a hotbed of momentum

Both belong to the Socialist Campaign group
It was formed in December 1982 following the 1981 deputy leadership election when a number of 'soft left' MPs, led by Neil Kinnock, refused to back Tony Benn's campaign, leading a number of left-wing Benn-supporting MPs to split from the Tribune Group to form the Socialist Campaign Group.[1]

It was at a meeting of the Campaign Group in June 2015 that the decision was taken that Jeremy Corbyn would contest for the leadership of the Labour Party.[2]

The Campaign Group maintains close links with Momentum

 

[JammyP]

It sounds like anti-vaxx sentiment is also very high in France, which could make it a real struggle there.

Or Macron daft enough to be waiting for a French vaccine?

 

[Moomin]

PS
Both Kim Johnson and Paula Barker both unison union officials which is well known in Liverpool for being a hotbed of momentum

Both belong to the Socialist Campaign group
It was formed in December 1982 following the 1981 deputy leadership election when a number of 'soft left' MPs, led by Neil Kinnock, refused to back Tony Benn's campaign, leading a number of left-wing Benn-supporting MPs to split from the Tribune Group to form the Socialist Campaign Group.[1]

It was at a meeting of the Campaign Group in June 2015 that the decision was taken that Jeremy Corbyn would contest for the leadership of the Labour Party.[2]

The Campaign Group maintains close links with Momentum

Kim Johnson only joined the campaign group after she became an MP.

One of my mates work with her sister, Unison is not a hotbed for momentum. She has been in unison and the labour party for years long before Momentum had came about.

 

[BlueDraka]

My

Kim Johnson only joined the campaign group after she became an MP.

One of my mates work with her sister, Unison is not a hotbed for momentum. She has been in unison and the labour party for years long before Momentum had came about.

My sister worked in head office in Hatton garden. She got hounded out after speaking out about momentum members. They made her life hell. She may have been in the Labour party before momentum but is a supporter of them. And I think you have to be an MP to be a member of the socialist campaign group

 

[Moomin]

My



My sister worked in head office in Hatton garden. She got hounded out after speaking out about momentum members. They made her life hell. She may have been in the Labour party before momentum but is a supporter of them

She does do stuff with Momentum now. Some of my wifes friends are in Momentum, majority of their time is helping out at foodbanks.

Momentum get painted out to be this imaginable beast which causes chaos. I just don't see it personally.

Yet, you said they have handpicked MP's. Kim wasn't picked by Momentum, but rather her links to Unison.