Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Barnfred 55]

Nor me....probably just some random pic of a Tory......but she is now in charge of test and trace I believe....

Ahh. That's Dildo Harding.

I googled somebody called Tristia Harrison (current Talk Talk CEO) and for some reason some pictures of Dido Harding came up. My bad.

Still don't know what that has to do with the highlighted bit though.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I know who she is now but I apologise that I don't know the face of everything single person in the public eye. lol

I still don't understand the connection to the highlighted bit though.

 

[random]

I still don't understand the connection to the highlighted bit though.

Is she the bus driver ?

 

[peteblue]

Is she the bus driver ?

Ahh....that’s where the money went......

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Last post in this merry-go-round. Some things never change (if the cap fits, wear it...)

The EU already costs us £350 million a week. Enough to build a new NHS hospital every week. 'Enough to build' = equivalent to.

So the U.K. now has an extra £350 million a week and we’re going to use this to build more hospitals?

 

[orchard]

Ahh. That's Dildo Harding.

I googled somebody called Tristia Harrison (current Talk Talk CEO) and for some reason some pictures of Dido Harding came up. My bad.

Still don't know what that has to do with the highlighted bit though.

Just a reminder to both sides really, it's not just about throwing money at things, especially so when there are bad faith actors in play.

 

[Wizard]

Last post in this merry-go-round. Some things never change (if the cap fits, wear it...)

The EU already costs us £350 million a week. Enough to build a new NHS hospital every week. 'Enough to build' = equivalent to.

The EU didn't cost us £350m a week though so there is the first misleading bit. They knew exactly what they were doing with the bus advert and clearly lots of people didn't see it as an "equivalent" with Cummings saying they probably would have lost without it.

British public still believe Vote Leave ‘£350m a week to EU’ myth from Brexit referendum

Efforts to debunk have not worked

www.independent.co.uk

Vote Leave director admits they won because they lied to the public

The London Economic | Vote Leave director admits they won because they lied to the public | News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

 

[peteblue]

The EU didn't cost us £350m a week though so there is the first misleading bit. They knew exactly what they were doing with the bus advert and clearly lots of people didn't see it as an "equivalent" with Cummings saying they probably would have lost without it.

British public still believe Vote Leave ‘£350m a week to EU’ myth from Brexit referendum

Efforts to debunk have not worked

www.independent.co.uk

Vote Leave director admits they won because they lied to the public

The London Economic | Vote Leave director admits they won because they lied to the public | News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

But the London economic piece is a lie in itself. It says that Cummings admits to lying, he doesn’t, he admits that the £350M plus other things tipped the scales. Just because the LE thinks it’s a lie does not mean that Cummings is admitting to a lie. At best the piece is disingenuous at worst it’s a downright lie.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

Yawn... It was an equivalent figure, relating to the weekly gross payment to the EU being equivalent to the cost of a new hospital. Nothing more, nothing less...

“We send the EU £350m a week.”

“Once we have settled our accounts, we will take back control of roughly £350 million per week. It would be a fine thing, as many of us have pointed out, if a lot of that money went on the NHS.”

NHS to get extra £384 million per week after Brexit Government says | ITV News

Theresa May says the “Brexit dividend” will help boost health service.

www.itv.com

Let's say you're right and it was actually meant as an equivalent, when can the NHS expect it's portion of the additional (roughly estimated) £19b?

 

[Jebus_lives]

But the London economic piece is a lie in itself. It says that Cummings admits to lying, he doesn’t, he admits that the £350M plus other things tipped the scales. Just because the LE thinks it’s a lie does not mean that Cummings is admitting to a lie. At best the piece is disingenuous at worst it’s a downright lie.....

It was a lie though...

 

[Prevenger17]

But the London economic piece is a lie in itself. It says that Cummings admits to lying, he doesn’t, he admits that the £350M plus other things tipped the scales. Just because the LE thinks it’s a lie does not mean that Cummings is admitting to a lie. At best the piece is disingenuous at worst it’s a downright lie.....

Poor Honest Dom has been carved up good and proper again, sad to see

 

[Prevenger17]

A mate of mine voted remain because he has a fear of cliff edges.....

Was that the "finance director"?

 

[Wizard]

But the London economic piece is a lie in itself. It says that Cummings admits to lying, he doesn’t, he admits that the £350M plus other things tipped the scales. Just because the LE thinks it’s a lie does not mean that Cummings is admitting to a lie. At best the piece is disingenuous at worst it’s a downright lie.....

From the Cummings Spectator article:

This also shows how volatile the situation was right until the end and how few prominent eurosceptics even then understood that a) the £350 million / NHS argument was necessary to win and b) their ‘go global’ message was a total loser

Dominic Cummings: how the Brexit referendum was won

Politics is gambling for high stakes with other people’s money… Politics is a job that can be compared with navigation in uncharted waters. One has no idea how the weather or the currents will be or what storms one is in for. In politics, there is the added fact that one is largely dependent on the

www.spectator.co.uk

£350m/NHS argument was a lie (wasn't £350M, wasn't all going to the NHS) therefore he has admitted whether knowingly or not that a lie was necessary for Leave to win.

 

[peteblue]

From the Cummings Spectator article:

This also shows how volatile the situation was right until the end and how few prominent eurosceptics even then understood that a) the £350 million / NHS argument was necessary to win and b) their ‘go global’ message was a total loser

Dominic Cummings: how the Brexit referendum was won

Politics is gambling for high stakes with other people’s money… Politics is a job that can be compared with navigation in uncharted waters. One has no idea how the weather or the currents will be or what storms one is in for. In politics, there is the added fact that one is largely dependent on the

www.spectator.co.uk

£350m/NHS argument was a lie (wasn't £350M, wasn't all going to the NHS) therefore he has admitted whether knowingly or not that a lie was necessary for Leave to win.

Point to a single thing he wrote where he states he admits it was a lie...your interpretation and that of the LE is the lie. Every thinking man and his dog knew that the £350M referred to the money sent and did not include the money received. If you believe that people thought the £350M was the balance, then can I ask why you didn’t vote leave.....

 

[Wizard]

Point to a single thing he wrote where he states he admits it was a lie...your interpretation and that of the LE is the lie. Every thinking man and his dog knew that the £350M referred to the money sent and did not include the money received. If you believe that people thought the £350M was the balance, then can I ask why you didn’t vote leave.....

As I said he admitted "whether knowingly or not". He doesn't have to explicitly say the words for it to be an admission.

"Every thinking man and his dog": Read the Independent article about how many people believed the £350m lie/myth whatever you choose to call it. Cummings himself said it was "necessary to win".

Your final point makes no sense. Why would I vote leave when it was clear that the claim was complete bull? I saw through it, sadly loads of people clearly didn't.