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Aqui1a said:
When I said, "Milo Yiannopoulos is obviously quite big with the movement," I made sure not to say he was part of the movement, because like I said it's hard to define. I know that a lot of alt-righters do like him, though.

Also, I'm not a fan of Sargon at all. He's another anti-feminist demagogue who's good at talking at videos and taking them out of context (as stated more in-depth here http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sargon_of_Akkad#General_problems) but when challenged in debates, like the ones he had with Jenni Goodchild, Kristi Winters and the fella from Majority Report, he's shown up to be a bit clueless. Although I will say that in this particular video, he does make some good points against the alt-right, but he also made some very transparent excuses for the movement as well. Judging by the number of dislikes he received, I think it's fair to say that a fairly large portion of his audience which is alt-right didn't appreciate the criticism. lol Anyway I'll put a couple of links which I think are more accurate in describing the alt-right at the end of this post.

Black Pigeon Speaks is another one popular within the alt-right and I think there's a strong case to make that he is part of the alt-right. I could name a lot of other anti-feminist channels, but for the sake of our conversation I'm sticking to ones I'm pretty much certain of. I'd argue that the idiotic racist, sexist buffoon David Aurini is also part of the alt-right.. He is entertainingly stupid though LoL A couple others I'd lump in would be Atheism-is-Unstoppable and Bearing. Also, let's not forget the cesspitt of unbridled Alt-Rightery, /pol/.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Neoreactionary_movement#Alt-right
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alternative_Right
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At the core of the movement is race realism and traditionalism. I believe it's a counter reaction to SJW's identity politics.

I don't think atheism is unstoppable is alt right. Some others that pop to my mind are Millennial Woes, Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer, Greg Johnson and a podcast called The Daily Shoah.

Perhaps the most worrying aspect is that many of these individuals are not hateful and are intelligent. They're not just skin head idiots.
 
SNova said:
At the core of the movement is race realism and traditionalism. I believe it's a counter reaction to SJW's identity politics.

I don't think atheism is unstoppable is alt right. Some others that pop to my mind are Millennial Woes, Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer, Greg Johnson and a podcast called The Daily Shoah.

Perhaps the most worrying aspect is that many of these individuals are not hateful and are intelligent. They're not just skin head idiots.
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Care to explain that?
 
SNova said:
At the core of the movement is race realism and traditionalism. I believe it's a counter reaction to SJW's identity politics.

I don't think atheism is unstoppable is alt right. Some others that pop to my mind are Millennial Woes, Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer, Greg Johnson and a podcast called The Daily Shoah.

Perhaps the most worrying aspect is that many of these individuals are not hateful and are intelligent. They're not just skin head idiots.
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Could you elaborate on what you mean by race realism?

Edit: According to http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism#Alternate_names it sounds a bit like.. racism?

Also, The Daily Shoah? What a disgusting name. Which reminds me, the alt-right is also very anti-semitic, I forgot to mention. Like, proper old-school anti-semitism, if you know what I mean.

I don't accept that many of them aren't hateful or are intelligent. I just see a lot of lame pseudo-intellectualism being used as a veil to smuggle disturbing and dangerous ideas into the public discourse.
 
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Aqui1a said:
Could you elaborate on what you mean by race realism?

Edit: According to http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism#Alternate_names it sounds a bit like.. racism?

Also, The Daily Shoah? What a disgusting name. Which reminds me, the alt-right is also very anti-semitic, I forgot to mention. Like, proper old-school anti-semitism, if you know what I mean.

I don't accept that many of them aren't hateful or are intelligent. I just see a lot of lame pseudo-intellectualism being used as a veil to get smuggle disturbing and dangerous ideas into the public discourse.
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I think they believe that races have different attributes and characteristics which come from their genetics. That includes Jews. Their main concern is that white people will become minorities in their homelands. If current trends continue.
 
SNova said:
I think they believe that races have different attributes and characteristics which come from their genetics. That includes Jews. Their main concern is that white people will become minorities in their homelands. If current trends continue.
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Ah, fair enough.

I would just link them to pages such as:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-racist_is_a_code_word_for_anti-white
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/White_extinction_scenario
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Genocide_conspiracy

In the hope that they hadn't gone full neonazi yet, and could still be reasoned with. lol
 
SNova said:
At the core of the movement is race realism and traditionalism. I believe it's a counter reaction to SJW's identity politics.

I don't think atheism is unstoppable is alt right. Some others that pop to my mind are Millennial Woes, Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer, Greg Johnson and a podcast called The Daily Shoah.

Perhaps the most worrying aspect is that many of these individuals are not hateful and are intelligent. They're not just skin head idiots.
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Does it bother you that I'm in a multiracial relationship?

It seems to bother many of the alt-right.
 
Number_25 said:
HURR DURR, I WILL FIGHT FOR PERSONAL LIBERTIES THROUGH BANNING PERSONAL LIBERTIES.

Also, rational wiki is absolute trash.
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RationalWiki is a very good source of information. It's not perfect, but it's very good. I knew using it would probably annoy somebody because it has a bit of a reputation, mostly amongst those on the right, of being a bit biased. But then truth does have a bit of a Leftist bias. :p
 
SNova said:
I'm not alt right.
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Ohh. I thought you were, sorry. Your posting history would definitely suggest it like... lol Fair enough though!

If you don't mind, what are your thoughts on the toxicity, anger and hatred within the anti-feminist/anti-SJW movement? It seems that people get really, really angry with people who say they're feminists. I've always thought this sort of behaviour was ironically antithetical to their claims of being rational, logical, reasonable etc.

A comic I came across the other day sums it up quite well:
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Aqui1a said:
Ohh. I thought you were, sorry. Your posting history would definitely suggest it like... lol Fair enough though!

If you don't mind, what are your thoughts on the toxicity, anger and hatred within the anti-feminist/anti-SJW movement? It seems that people get really, really angry with people who say they're feminists. I've always thought this sort of behaviour was ironically antithetical to their claims of being rational, logical, reasonable etc.

A comic I came across the other day sums it up quite well:
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I'm not a fan of SJW's and I'm not a fan of feminism.

Number_25 said:
Would be nice to have a direct response to a direct question, comrade.
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Alright, no.
 
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