bluejim95
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Thats the 15b deal where the UK get 1.5b? Yeah, can totally see why the Japanese were onboard.
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Thats the 15b deal where the UK get 1.5b? Yeah, can totally see why the Japanese were onboard.
bluejim95
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Having done export for a living, this is 100% spot on. Great post.
peteblue
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Can someone do Jebus a favour and explain that this conversation is out of his league and pay grade and that he should leave it to @orly and @nsno-chris...thanks.....
What pay grade do you need to have to discuss Brexit on a free online forum?
As I said, time for bed Pete, you've had enough for tonight.
bluejim95
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I wish I could get involved in this thread more but work kinda blocks me. I get to see the mechanics of all this first hand and its difficult for me to say too much. But to be clear, a no deal, aka "Australian style", aka WTO outcome, will be a disaster for everyone. No question.
bluejim95
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When I try to take a balanced view of all this...
These deals are extremely complex. Before we kick off, just imagine. Every single item you ship needs to be classified. I hear its an extremely good job and we've all seen the examples. Is jaffa cake a biscuit or a cake? Does this banana meet grade A specification? These aren't stupid rules enforced on us, they are a tax classification. A commodity code if I remember correctly, it is late.
The example I was given when taught, that was a few years ago now and even then it was hard to find someone who could. Was of shorts, the duty was high on the importers end and they wanted to find a way round it. Classification guy does a bit of research, says... stick then nasty mesh pants inside and you can call them swimming trunks. Lower duty, off they go. Maybe some might remember when XBOX added an internal hard drive. Personal Computers might just have lower import duty than games consoles. They added something and made more money doing so.
Any deal passed in that short time has to be classed a success on that alone, given the range of items involved. I agree with Pete there, that is the glimmer of hope. Most of these deals will be EU like as that's what is already Classified.
But the successful closing of a deal does not make it either a good deal or a secure one. The demand needs to be there for it to be a success. If one side gets upset, they start effecting these trade lines as a form of attack. As we've seen with China not liking Australia calling them out over Covid. The EU, no question, protects us on masse from that. And the supply chain within the EU is 1st class, another area we are wide open on once left.
I get brexit. I would say I am not a millennial, nor a baby boomer... I'm in that lost group in the middle. No idea if it has a name, but the inbetweeners seems apt.
I have seen the gold just out of reach and I have said the words, I wouldn't want be at their age now. I've benefitted and I've lost out.
I voted remain as I believe barriers should be broken and from within my industry I physically saw the benefit. We are all guilty of thinking that life is simple, the engine of it all really isn't.
I would like more control to, but this country does not need to stand up to Brussels, but London. So many parts of the UK lie in ruin whilst they continue to waste money in a place that has so much more than anywhere else. Covid may start to address that as we see people moving out as they wfh. No footfall to keep the shops going, businesses realising they don't need expensive offices. They are already realising the gold mine is dry, just waiting for the higher tax if you wfh.
My personal feeling is that it would have been better to stay and effect change from within the EU. Build on the good and improve the bad. But I feel the same as Pete when he is upset by the unjustified cost of the EU. Its rotten, no doubt. But from rotten fruit, life can start again. Leaving just felt like trying to run away from the issues and clearly those issue will persist. Refugees being the obvious one.
Personal experience is everything. Before I had this role, I to said the words, they are stealing our jobs. But its really not and I see that now. In fact the Polish are some of the nicest, proudest people and I'd have them all over here. I hate the term the EU as its extremely difficult to generalise across 27 nations.
Apologies for the long post, just wanted to try and bring back a debate rather than insults. Pete does have, albeit one sided, views that are correct, as do many remainers.
But we are blues, when the whistle goes, we get behind the 11 on the pitch... even if one of them has little arms. At some point, we'll have no choice but to be on the same side. And I think this is the point Pete is really trying to make. No matter who or what we voted for, we will all be effected, we all need it to be a success.
These deals are extremely complex. Before we kick off, just imagine. Every single item you ship needs to be classified. I hear its an extremely good job and we've all seen the examples. Is jaffa cake a biscuit or a cake? Does this banana meet grade A specification? These aren't stupid rules enforced on us, they are a tax classification. A commodity code if I remember correctly, it is late.
The example I was given when taught, that was a few years ago now and even then it was hard to find someone who could. Was of shorts, the duty was high on the importers end and they wanted to find a way round it. Classification guy does a bit of research, says... stick then nasty mesh pants inside and you can call them swimming trunks. Lower duty, off they go. Maybe some might remember when XBOX added an internal hard drive. Personal Computers might just have lower import duty than games consoles. They added something and made more money doing so.
Any deal passed in that short time has to be classed a success on that alone, given the range of items involved. I agree with Pete there, that is the glimmer of hope. Most of these deals will be EU like as that's what is already Classified.
But the successful closing of a deal does not make it either a good deal or a secure one. The demand needs to be there for it to be a success. If one side gets upset, they start effecting these trade lines as a form of attack. As we've seen with China not liking Australia calling them out over Covid. The EU, no question, protects us on masse from that. And the supply chain within the EU is 1st class, another area we are wide open on once left.
I get brexit. I would say I am not a millennial, nor a baby boomer... I'm in that lost group in the middle. No idea if it has a name, but the inbetweeners seems apt.
I have seen the gold just out of reach and I have said the words, I wouldn't want be at their age now. I've benefitted and I've lost out.
I voted remain as I believe barriers should be broken and from within my industry I physically saw the benefit. We are all guilty of thinking that life is simple, the engine of it all really isn't.
I would like more control to, but this country does not need to stand up to Brussels, but London. So many parts of the UK lie in ruin whilst they continue to waste money in a place that has so much more than anywhere else. Covid may start to address that as we see people moving out as they wfh. No footfall to keep the shops going, businesses realising they don't need expensive offices. They are already realising the gold mine is dry, just waiting for the higher tax if you wfh.
My personal feeling is that it would have been better to stay and effect change from within the EU. Build on the good and improve the bad. But I feel the same as Pete when he is upset by the unjustified cost of the EU. Its rotten, no doubt. But from rotten fruit, life can start again. Leaving just felt like trying to run away from the issues and clearly those issue will persist. Refugees being the obvious one.
Personal experience is everything. Before I had this role, I to said the words, they are stealing our jobs. But its really not and I see that now. In fact the Polish are some of the nicest, proudest people and I'd have them all over here. I hate the term the EU as its extremely difficult to generalise across 27 nations.
Apologies for the long post, just wanted to try and bring back a debate rather than insults. Pete does have, albeit one sided, views that are correct, as do many remainers.
But we are blues, when the whistle goes, we get behind the 11 on the pitch... even if one of them has little arms. At some point, we'll have no choice but to be on the same side. And I think this is the point Pete is really trying to make. No matter who or what we voted for, we will all be effected, we all need it to be a success.
Just a traitor isn't he?
NilSatisOptimum
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There will be no renaissance in British car manufacturing whisky continues to be tarriff free but loses Geographical identification. We can celebrate the Stilton trade, to a nation such as Japan that is basically lactose intolerant...
orchard
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Which please?
I can’t say, the goods are subject to official controls under EU law
orchard
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I thought as much, cheers anyway.
If I were to guess, I would say corrupting animal feed with gmo's.
lol There’s more important things than brexit. He’s an unstable narcissist who has little care for ourselves or things like the environment
Nope, it’s a food for human consumption
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