Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

according to the brext book by mark goodwin which analysed survey and stastistic results that 34% figure is definately incorrect.

given a sample size of a million referendums, the bell curve suggests that remain would have a ‘win’ by a very slight margin, however it is that close that if it was re-run right now the result would more than likely stay the same and that the leave side would win. the book is based on solid verifiable data

Which book is that? I could only find a book by a Matthew Goodwin, which was published in 2017, so surely not relevant to gauge sentiment now.

 

[orly]

NIP means that "unfettered access" nearly impossible to reconcile from a legislative perspective.

More news when we reveal James Rodriguez.

 

[random]

Which book is that? I could only find a book by a Matthew Goodwin, which was published in 2017, so surely not relevant to gauge sentiment now.

will let you gave the details of it when I get in from work later on Bruce

 

[orchard]

TBF I think you are making an understandable error here in assuming that the UK side is negotiating in the best interests of the UK.

They aren’t; they are negotiating on behalf of a very small group of people who stand to be the only ones to profit from this. If they were representing the UK, we’d have left more than a year ago on very soft terms.

Quite. Not sure about your last sentence, but there has been no reaching out or compromise to bring any of those that voted remain onboard, on the contrary, most concerns that were dismissed as 'project fear' are now being realised.

 

[orly]

Northern Ireland Deputy First Minister Michelle O'Neill tweeted that any threat of backtracking on the protocol would be a "treacherous betrayal which would inflict irreversible harm on the all-Ireland economy and the Good Friday Agreement".

But we need NI consent for SIs...

 

[random]

most concerns that were dismissed as 'project fear' are now being realised.

which ones that have been realised would you say are the most concerning ?

 

[roydo]

which ones that have been realised would you say are the most concerning ?

Easiest trade deal in history springs to mind.

 

[orchard]

which ones that have been realised would you say are the most concerning ?

For me personally ? I would say probably environmental/food standards being lowered.

 

[random]

Easiest trade deal in history springs to mind.

my understanding was ‘project fear’ described statements made by remain supporters

 

[random]

For me personally ? I would say probably environmental/food standards being lowered.

food standards should absolutely be upheld, have they been reduced since we left the EU or is the legislation still in place ?

 

[roydo]

my understanding was ‘project fear’ described statements made by remain supporters

Soz, only read a few bits. FWIW, I didnt believe much of the Project Fear stuff, in the same way all good news was proof Brext was good, and vica versa.

Just thought leaving based on the bollox that was spouted was stupid.

 

[tsubaki]

But we need NI consent for SIs...

consent? from foreigners? TAKE BACK CONTROL ENGLAND

 

[Bruce Wayne]

which ones that have been realised would you say are the most concerning ?

 

[orly]

consent? from foreigners? TAKE BACK CONTROL ENGLAND

Haha!

All joking aside it's a massive problem

- accept it when DUP ministers refuse consent and you have no legal framework post-TP (the timing is incredibly tight already so the ping pong won't work)

- ignore a lack of consent and you'll get total mutiny from the Devolved Admins and make the easiest case for independent Scotland. Oh and undermine any number of policy areas where a legal decision post-TP must be made with the consent of the Devolveds.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

which ones that have been realised would you say are the most concerning ?

The cost of holidays in Europe was branded as project fear, yet whereas the pound bought €1.30 or so prior to the vote, it now gets you €1.10. For the average holiday of around £800 for a family, that means it's £100 more expensive now than it was.

That's an obvious one, but many of the other things, from house prices to job losses are going to be hard to distinguish from COVID, but I'm not sure you can pick any economic aspect and say things are better now than they were in 2016.