Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Imagine turning up to participate in a serious negotiation only to be greeted with renowned liars such as Gove, Johnson et al. on the other side of the table.

Indeed. On one level the state aid is interesting! However, the rowing back on aggrements made in good faith will have much more wider implications going forwards, trust and respect are very good commodities in their own right.
 
It's not footie lid.

I am aware of that but thanks for the conformation.

we are where we are, there is a negotiation going on, and naturally each ‘side’ wants the best conclusion for themselves, I was pointing out who was representing the UK position as it appeared that some posters were not aware of who it was
 
its David Frost on our side of the table doing the negotiation

[Actual transcript of meeting here]

Hello, Good evening and welcome.

Thank you for coming to these Brexit negotiations. I feel we have put together a strong offer that will mutually benefit us all.

What we would like is to be part of the single market without being in the single market, we don't want free movement and we don't want any laws imposed on us by the EU but we would like to shape EU law if possible.

EU: So you still want all the benefits with none of the compromises.

DF: Yes.

EU: Then no.

DF: That concludes our meeting for this month and we'll see you next month to see if you have changed your minds.
 
I am aware of that but thanks for the conformation.

we are where we are, there is a negotiation going on, and naturally each ‘side’ wants the best conclusion fior themselves, I was poiting out who was representing the UK position as it appeared that some posters were not aware of who it was

TBF I think you are making an understandable error here in assuming that the UK side is negotiating in the best interests of the UK.

They aren’t; they are negotiating on behalf of a very small group of people who stand to be the only ones to profit from this. If they were representing the UK, we’d have left more than a year ago on very soft terms.
 
Any idea how the "cost of Brexit so far" is calculated?

I'm genuinely interested, not because my instinct is to challenge it, but its easy for things posted like this on the web to be taken as true regardless of whether they are or not.

according to the brext book by mark goodwin which analysed survey and stastistic results that 34% figure is definately incorrect.

given a sample size of a million referendums, the bell curve suggests that remain would have a ‘win’ by a very slight margin, however it is that close that if it was re-run right now the result would more than likely stay the same and that the leave side would win. the book is based on solid verifiable data
 
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Hmm. Planning legislation to override key parts of the treaty?
Oh if only the Weimar Republic had thought of that with the pesky Treaty of Versailles...
 
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