Current Affairs EU In or Out

[JimmyJeffers]

We also have a Tories are scum thread.....

One of my favourites

 

[peteblue]

One of my favourites

A classic thread of well reasoned out and balanced opinions....

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Nothing, sorry, we have digressed.....

edit...actually checking back someone mentioned Trump and then you raised the issue of Conservatives spending in Liverpool...

In the context of 1bn pound investment by the EU...

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

We also have a Tories are scum thread.....

Diversion. What are your views on the Tory proposal to engineer the managed decline of our city? The EU invested heavily in this place, something no Tory government could countenance.
I mentioned that Tories are scum, not as a diversion but as part of my general point. Your glib replies to people on here are pathetic...

 

[dead_soft]

Because it would be unworkable. Why not do it by postcode, or streets, or different floors in a block of flats. Huyton could have a different foreign policy to that of Walton, can’t see any problems with that.... oh no wait.....

What's the size that works then? Because local areas are too small but EU is too big. And for what reason is it workable as the UK but the EU was not workable? I really can't see a reason you are giving other than patriotism and tradition

 

[spectateur]

At the time Iraq was on the go there were no undue domestic pressures for Blair to worry about. Certainly not in comparison to what Attlee faced.
Massive housing shortage as a result of the blitz.
Massive loss of business properties due to same.
Massive demob of Forces personnel with no jobs to go to.
The major problem for 90% of the population was 'the next meal'. I can remember being sent shopping by my mother. Queue was 20 yards outside the shop. Even if you had the money and the coupons you just hoped that they hadn't sold out before it was your turn. Every shopping trip took one or two hours because of queue's. Faced with that lot, on a daily basis, I don't think you can blame Attlee for foreign policy failures.
Bruce, I just don't think you have any idea how bad things were. I don't know if you think the current pandemic is bad? Well, it pales into insignificance compared with the years after the war.

On a brighter note, a true story about rationing. In the early 1950's I remember sweets coming off ration. This would be the first time since rationing started about 10 years earlier. I had some pocket money so raced up to the sweet shop for the thrill of buying some sweets without coupons. When I got to the shop the queue was, as usual, about 20 yards long outside the shop. When I finally reached the counter, I found that the shopkeeper had introduced his own 'rationing' system to ensure everyone got something. The problem was, his rationing was less than the official rationing!

I'm glad somebody else on here remembers the immediate post war austerity.
Of course being kids at the time we had only experienced life in wartime so it didn't seem so bad at the time.
A totally different and incomparable world with today however.

 

[Jebus_lives]

It was our money to begin with, they just gave a small part of it back. The Fact that you believe that the EU is giving you ‘free’ money is perhaps the biggest con trick ever developed, and like sheep you believe it......

Nobody thinks this.................

 

[roydo]

So, it seems we are in a weird agreement that neither the Tories nor Labour would have, or indeed, actually did, lob not a lot at Liverpool, apart from a motorway.

But no one disagrees that the EU did lob a billion at the city.

So who is the bad guy again?

 

[Harryflashman]

Nobody thinks this.................

There is definitely mentality amongst some that they’re so much smarter than the rest of us and we’re in desperate need of saving . It’s , again , almost religious

 

[Jebus_lives]

There is definitely mentality amongst some that they’re so much smarter than the rest of us and we’re in desperate need of saving . It’s , again , almost religious

Cult Britannia.

 

[Harryflashman]

Cult Britannia.

Ohhhh cult

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Nobody thinks this.................

They do think expensive sanitary pads are killing our fish though.

 

[peteblue]

I'm glad somebody else on here remembers the immediate post war austerity.
Of course being kids at the time we had only experienced life in wartime so it didn't seem so bad at the time.
A totally different and incomparable world with today however.

Was there any need for you to deliberately wind up our snowflake population by the inexcusable use of an offending full stop...... (just dots lads, keep calm)....

 

[peteblue]

Nobody thinks this.................

So you agree that it is just a bit of our own money returned....

 

[Jebus_lives]

So you agree that it is just a bit of our own money returned....

You never did strike me as someone that understood the principle of redistribution.