Current Affairs EU In or Out

[roydo]

In connection with covid I'm sure that people younger than me are thinking sort off 'stuff them' about the older and ill even if it's on the quiet. I'll freely admit that I'm of that mind set too. That again is one of the tradegies of this. Lines have been drawn and whether they exist for the common good or not, there is no denying them. British young people now have many many fewer chances in life and I cant get over that.

I dont see it as fewer chances, more that its been made more complicated to access them. Well, EU wise anyrate. Not great though.

 

[Tea_drinker]

I dont see it as fewer chances, more that its been made more complicated to access them. Well, EU wise anyrate. Not great though.

I've worked in a few countries in the EU and countries in Asia and the prospect of going through the rigmarole of getting work visas for the EU that you have to for Asian nations is appalling. Heres an exzmple: in the past an UK person could marry anyone from the EU no problem whereas Americans, Canadians etc had to study the local language, pass test in the local culture etc to get a marriage Visa to stay there with residency allowance. I now fear that we have lost that.

 

[random]

the prospect of going through the rigmarole of getting work visas for the EU that you have to for Asian nations is appalling.

https://www.gov.uk/working-abroad

At the moment you don't need a work visa for EEA countries.


If it did change the probable worst would be this...

The standard requirements for a European employment visa are as following:

• Application Form. Fully completed and printed twice. Do not forget to sign both copies at the end!
• Two identical photos. These photos should be taken within the last three months, according to the common Schengen visa photography criteria.
• Valid passport. Your passport should be no older than ten years and valid for at least three more months, on the date you plan to exit the Schengen territory. Make sure it has at least two blank pages for the visa sticker.
• Roundtrip flight reservation. This should indicate the dates and flight numbers of entry and exit from the Schengen area. Here you can learn more about how to book a flight reservation for EU visa application!
• Travel medical insurance. Covering any medical emergency with hospital care and travel back to one’s native country due to medical emergencies, up to 30,000 euros. Insurance must be valid in all Schengen countries and purchased before picking up the visa.
• Proof of Accommodation. A document that shows where you will be residing in the Schengen Area, i.e. rent agreement.
• Employment contract. An employment contract signed between you and your future employer, residing in the Schengen territory.
• Proof of Academic Qualifications. As diplomas, certificates, grades’ transcript etc.
• Proof of language knowledge. Most countries want you to fit in even if you are planning to work there only per one year. That is why many of them will ask you to meet a specific level of knowledge of their official language.

Apart from learning some of the host country language (sensible thing to do anyway) what bit of that would you find hard if you had a job to go to ?

 

[Tea_drinker]

https://www.gov.uk/working-abroad

At the moment you don't need a work visa for EEA countries.


If it did change the probable worst would be this...

The standard requirements for a European employment visa are as following:

• Application Form. Fully completed and printed twice. Do not forget to sign both copies at the end!
• Two identical photos. These photos should be taken within the last three months, according to the common Schengen visa photography criteria.
• Valid passport. Your passport should be no older than ten years and valid for at least three more months, on the date you plan to exit the Schengen territory. Make sure it has at least two blank pages for the visa sticker.
• Roundtrip flight reservation. This should indicate the dates and flight numbers of entry and exit from the Schengen area. Here you can learn more about how to book a flight reservation for EU visa application!
• Travel medical insurance. Covering any medical emergency with hospital care and travel back to one’s native country due to medical emergencies, up to 30,000 euros. Insurance must be valid in all Schengen countries and purchased before picking up the visa.
• Proof of Accommodation. A document that shows where you will be residing in the Schengen Area, i.e. rent agreement.
• Employment contract. An employment contract signed between you and your future employer, residing in the Schengen territory.
• Proof of Academic Qualifications. As diplomas, certificates, grades’ transcript etc.
• Proof of language knowledge. Most countries want you to fit in even if you are planning to work there only per one year. That is why many of them will ask you to meet a specific level of knowledge of their official language.

Apart from learning some of the host country language (sensible thing to do anyway) what bit of that would you find hard if you had a job to go to ?

Yes and there was nothing like that before the old codgers and racists and losers voted us out. It was always easy.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

https://www.gov.uk/working-abroad

At the moment you don't need a work visa for EEA countries.


If it did change the probable worst would be this...

The standard requirements for a European employment visa are as following:

• Application Form. Fully completed and printed twice. Do not forget to sign both copies at the end!
• Two identical photos. These photos should be taken within the last three months, according to the common Schengen visa photography criteria.
• Valid passport. Your passport should be no older than ten years and valid for at least three more months, on the date you plan to exit the Schengen territory. Make sure it has at least two blank pages for the visa sticker.
• Roundtrip flight reservation. This should indicate the dates and flight numbers of entry and exit from the Schengen area. Here you can learn more about how to book a flight reservation for EU visa application!
• Travel medical insurance. Covering any medical emergency with hospital care and travel back to one’s native country due to medical emergencies, up to 30,000 euros. Insurance must be valid in all Schengen countries and purchased before picking up the visa.
• Proof of Accommodation. A document that shows where you will be residing in the Schengen Area, i.e. rent agreement.
• Employment contract. An employment contract signed between you and your future employer, residing in the Schengen territory.
• Proof of Academic Qualifications. As diplomas, certificates, grades’ transcript etc.
• Proof of language knowledge. Most countries want you to fit in even if you are planning to work there only per one year. That is why many of them will ask you to meet a specific level of knowledge of their official language.

Apart from learning some of the host country language (sensible thing to do anyway) what bit of that would you find hard if you had a job to go to ?

As a freelancer, the employment contract is a problem. Unsurprisingly, governments tend to be horribly old fashioned and out of date with how the world actually works.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I've worked in a few countries in the EU and countries in Asia and the prospect of going through the rigmarole of getting work visas for the EU that you have to for Asian nations is appalling. Heres an exzmple: in the past an UK person could marry anyone from the EU no problem whereas Americans, Canadians etc had to study the local language, pass test in the local culture etc to get a marriage Visa to stay there with residency allowance. I now fear that we have lost that.

Point taken, but if you intend to live somewhere for an extended period you really should learn the language.

 

[random]

Yes and there was nothing like that before the old codgers and racists and losers voted us out. It was always easy.

Awesome, so to avoid answering the question which bit would you find hard to apply for a visa (if and when the process becomes mandatory) you decide to throw insults.

Rigmarole: 'a lengthy and complicated procedure'

Roughly half of those things on that list I had to do to confirm my start with a new employer in the UK, I didn't find it particularly difficult or complicated. Maybe the process for working in the EU will be different to that for Asian countries, why not put your fears away until such time as things become clearer.

 

[summerisle]

Taking back control working out well again.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Taking back control working out well again.

Control!

 

[degsy]

The worst thing is that these retirees are ready and waiting to pin the blame on younger generations when this turns out to be a shitshow.

Bruce, Its been a shitshow since (at least) 1914, this next S.S. is just the latest in a long line...and I doubt the next S.S. after that will be any better than the last one

 

[orchard]

Bosses at the Food Standards Agency reviewing the shelf life of beef, lamb and pork are set to give the go-ahead for longer expiry dates before Christmas.

An extra four days on supermarket pork???
Ffs.

 

[nsno-chris]

Bosses at the Food Standards Agency reviewing the shelf life of beef, lamb and pork are set to give the go-ahead for longer expiry dates before Christmas.

An extra four days on supermarket pork???
Ffs.

Not exactly related to leaving the EU, this has been an ongoing issue for years with the BPMA lobbying for extending the shelf life of those products

The amount of food waste in the U.K. needs to be reduced

 

[orchard]

Not exactly related to leaving the EU, this has been an ongoing issue for years with the BPMA lobbying for extending the shelf life of those products

The amount of food waste in the U.K. needs to be reduced

So let the supermarkets sell it instead? If the supermarkets are wasting meat it's their systemic problem.

I take it these are different regulations to hanging meat and apply only to pre-packed cuts?

On the rare occasions I buy supermarket pork (usually buy whole or half organic pigs), they've always been minging upon reaching the current UB date. Obviously beef and lamb are more robust.

 

[Barnfred 55]

One of the greatest scenes in movie history

There you go. We don't disagree on everything

 

[nsno-chris]

So let the supermarkets sell it instead? If the supermarkets are wasting meat it's their systemic problem.

I take it these are different regulations to hanging meat and apply only to pre-packed cuts?

On the rare occasions I buy supermarket pork (usually buy whole or half organic pigs), they've always been minging upon reaching the current UB date. Obviously beef and lamb are more robust.

Literally nothing to do with the supermarkets at all

Yes, it’s for vacuum packed meat. It’s not a whim, it’s based off years of back and forth between the FSA and the lobbyists