Disgruntledgoat
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Wind your neck in Colonel Blimp, he is referring, of course, the government of the day.
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Wind your neck in Colonel Blimp, he is referring, of course, the government of the day.
Chapter 47 of the Brexit thread:
In which @peteblue attempts to convince himself and others that he actually fought in World War II and attenpts to persuade everyone that Britain was responsible for singlehandedly thwarting the evil Germans.
'it went down a storm at the pub when I dressed up as Churchill and did my two fingers at the picture of Hitler on the dartboard, but those remoaners on GOT are completely humourless and hate Britain!'
In which @peteblue attempts to convince himself and others that he actually fought in World War II and attenpts to persuade everyone that Britain was responsible for singlehandedly thwarting the evil Germans.
'it went down a storm at the pub when I dressed up as Churchill and did my two fingers at the picture of Hitler on the dartboard, but those remoaners on GOT are completely humourless and hate Britain!'
Quite, but he masks an awful lot of sensible discussion with guff about the war, paper thin cliches about trade surplus and weak arguments about Sovereignty.
I mean it's a poor show when @peteblue is the best advocate for leaving the EU on the forum.
bluejim95
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I think you will find it has been done, and is being improved. That's how I read it, maybe I'm wrong but I actually think I've traded through it as well. It has existed since 1999, 2016 saw them come back to improve it... think I typed that before.
I highly doubt anyone would want your help to be honest, certainly not me. If you cant see that we now have to agree all those deals from scratch, and comparing a market of 27 to 1 in terms of speed, dont think it will ever be 27 times faster for us. Plus, one deal with one country can effect the next... but hey, years of experience, what would I know, maybe you can ask your pint for me.
The deals now mean nothing that were setup by the EU... OMG... really!!!! So how are we doing just fine trading with the rest of the world as you put it!! Its through the EU deals, whether you like it or not, we are still in the EU until next year in all but name!!!
No other countries accept tax alignment except the 27 member countries that have access to the single market... yeah no countries at all.
I think you should try the Daily Express, think you might like it!
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I thought you were doing quite well for a while until you decided to try and play the man and not the ball.
You haven’t a clue about the Mercosur Eu FTA, which has not been finalised, signed or ratified and therefore has not entered into force, so how you say you are trading through it I would be really interested to understand.
No one said anything would be 27 times faster, just faster than having another 27 countries to agree and ratify.
Also when I said that no countries would accept tax alignment, I obviously meant countries Outside of the EU.
I doubt you have ever negotiated anything. You may well be in the import/export business and producing P&L’s, but that’s not quite the same is it.
Throwing in references to a ‘pint’ or the ‘daily express’ just means you are trying to be clever and playing to the crowd, so I’ll leave you to do so.
If you ever decide to have a sensible conversation then try again.
What would you call selling a smaller ally down the river after you had pledged to stand by them in their time of need? And then to do it a second time to the Poles. Bravery?
"Shame in my heart, I stand among the agates
those jewels of our land!
The faithful sword whose resting place is near
was not to hand!
Like dew besprinkled leaves and blossoms
while dormant still in bud,
the sword, the lance, the chain mail gauntlet
were always splashed with blood
To pray? But let the sword be drawn
and flash the while we pray!
Only the women may have empty hands now,
And not even they!
The clock moves on, though time is running slow,
atop our Renaissance spire.
The hand of history's inscribed on walls
new signs of fire
But there's dried blood on it, a spark is kindled;
the chained will disobey
Only the women have empty hands now
And not even they
To hold our hands in miserable prayer
wait for a better day?
Only the children may have empty hands now
And not even they
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I honestly don’t know. Perhaps something similar to what the USA and U.K. governments did, or did not do, when Russia annexed the Crimea, even though guarantees were given by all and sundry regarding the Ukraine’s security if they gave up nuclear weapons......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Anything practical, as opposed to words ?.....
Disgruntledgoat
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So cowardice, then?
Edit: THat response was flippant and inaccurate. I apologise.
The UK and US governments had no security commitment to the state of Ukraine prior to irregular Russian forces annexing part of it.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Bruce, as I have asked you several times, apart from platitudes, what physically could the U.K. do at that time. The Navy couldn’t help, the Air Force couldn’t help and the army was stretched around the world. What in all honesty do you believe could be done....
Disgruntledgoat
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They could put a massive dent in Germany's fuel supplies, they could have used the world's preeminent Navy to blockade the northern ports or even to stand up to the Nazis at Danzig. It isn't always boots on the ground.
They could have taken their alliance seriously. Benes was telling the Chamberlain government repeatedly about the dangers of cozying up to Henlein, and he was ignored. He warned repeatedly about the German propaganda about the minority German population in northern Czechoslovakia. He was ignored. The country ignored the moves by Germany to rearm and break the Versailles agreement in 1935. Chamberlain ignored the Anschcluss at the start of 1938.
So many signs to get their act together. All ignored until the poo had become so big it couldn't be ignored any more, and then we were apparently heroic for saving the universe. Pfft.
And of course by Britain actually doing something, it would have made it impossible for the French to chicken out, and they had a huge army. The Czech defenses (that were stood down because of Munich) were good, and if the French had attacked from the west it could have all been very different.
Disgruntledgoat
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Britain was actually the only European power to take the blockade on sale of armaments either side in Spain seriously as well, studiously sat on her hands whilst Italy and Germany enjoyed honing their new war machines to a state of readiness and Stalin made off with a big pile of loot from selling guns to the republicans.
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