Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
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Well, I've exported to Brazil... so, there you go, hence I thought I might have. I see you have added the FTA part since to, details hey!!

I dont have or need to play to a crowd, that is all for you sir. I entered this to give an insight to the real world. The Daily Express reference is because all Brexiteers have the same view, as actually they are selling it to your demographic. The pint reference is because you said you owned your own pub.

For the Tax, do you think the EU grow countries or do you think that those countries were outside the EU before they agreed? Deluded!!

You said we could do trade deals as fast as we wanted, but yes we would need a lot of deals in a short time... let's see how long that takes. I think you were down as saying 3-5 years of disruption... how many deals do you expect in that time? You do realise that the 27 countries are already aligned in most part...

Playing the man... here comes the victim. You have then tried to say I haven't negotiated when you know very little about me. It does however prove that you are the one playing the man.

Another classic Brexit trait is to walk away from an arguement, simply cause in your day, that was sufficient... in modern times though, all the rubbish you spout is there on the net. Walking away doesn't work on modern platforms.

I believe I have been sensible in my conversation, I have my own views built on experience. Seems your views are very generic and you should really stop buying that paper.

Well at least that’s a better start. I don’t do victimhood btw. If you wish to have a go at me then by all means do so, but expect comeback. If you have traded with Brazil then you didn’t do it through a non existent trade deal. If you have negotiated trade deals, then I apologise for not knowing. Walking away is a very valid form of negotiation, especially if you have no intention of re-entering negotiations with an intransigent partner. Finally, you wish for me to respect your views, which as you say are built on experience, but it may come as a surprise that others on here also have a little bit of experience and do not elicit views based on the editorials of daily rags.....
 
Bruce it took Germany just 6 weeks to overrun France and that was with the French and British having had time to prepare defences...your imagined view of the German mechanised army being an easy target is way off the mark......

I didn't say they were easy. I said they were considerably easier in 1938 when we had pledged to tackle them, than they were in 1940 when we actually did. The acquisition of the Skoda works played a central role in the development of the Panzer tank, with over half of the tanks used in the invasions of Poland and France of Czech origin.
 
I didn't say they were easy. I said they were considerably easier in 1938 when we had pledged to tackle them, than they were in 1940 when we actually did. The acquisition of the Skoda works played a central role in the development of the Panzer tank, with over half of the tanks used in the invasions of Poland and France of Czech origin.

And I think everyone agrees that, with hindsight, that may have been the right move, but the powers that were in place decided otherwise. I don’t believe it was a case of ‘letting anyone down’ or failing in responsibilities, it was just the situation those powers found themselves in and the lack of achieveable solutions......
 
And I think everyone agrees that, with hindsight, that may have been the right move, but the powers that were in place decided otherwise. I don’t believe it was a case of ‘letting anyone down’ or failing in responsibilities, it was just the situation those powers found themselves in and the lack of achieveable solutions......

A great many Czechs feel/felt incredibly let down. It's also perhaps worth remembering that the Soviets at the time had pacts with both Czechs and France. Whilst they may not have gotten involved militarily, they quite possibly would have denied Germans access to oil (it's also worth remembering that the Germans plundered the majority of the Czechs natural resources as well as taking their military equipment). Given the Romanian allegiances with France, it's quite probable that their oil would also have been off limits, and approximately 50% of German oil came from Romania at the time.
 
No more cheap labour, hopefully businesses start paying people properly now and they get rid of agencies.
Harsh for people who come from the EU but services got too stretched and it had to happen.

100% that’s the driving force behind the thinking of the likes of Johnson, JRM , Francois and the rest. champions of the working man and enemies of the fat cats , Let the good times roll
 
No more cheap labour, hopefully businesses start paying people properly now and they get rid of agencies.
Harsh for people who come from the EU but services got too stretched and it had to happen.

Its more likely to be harsh for folk relying on services and support in this country mate. But carry on being pig ignorant.
 
Its more likely to be harsh for folk relying on services and support in this country mate. But carry on being pig ignorant.
I'm not blaming anyone just saying services got stretched and immigration got the blame for it. There are a number of reasons but that one reason got the sole blame for it.

When asked why GPS are full and housing is in a bad state people (not me) say if 6 millions migrants hadn't arrived since 2005 we would be ok
 
I'm not blaming anyone just saying services got stretched and immigration got the blame for it. There are a number of reasons but that one reason got the sole blame for it.

When asked why GPS are full and housing is in a bad state people (not me) say if 6 millions migrants hadn't arrived since 2005 we would be ok

Its always someone else saying it, isnt it?
 
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