Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Bruce kids leave school in my day it was apprenticeships training on the job day release block week release etc only the really stars in academics got to universities.......
Now it almost the complete reverse hence massive skill shortages - they say the young kids won't do the back breaking Horticultural/ Agricultural work in my day I did and many others did ...
Try getting work on your house by a skilled tradesman you can trust nowadays it's hard to find them......
Hence that's why untill the system is fixed we will always need immigration- alls we are now going to do is set up a work visa stopping free movement as your skill is valued as it is in countries outside the EU e.g. Usa New Zealand Canada etc etc

I've had about a dozen tradesman doing work on my house for 2 months. I'd be happy if they sodded off tbh. I've said what must be a dozen times though, free movement achieves better results than the managed approach you advocate. Why is this evidence over so many years seemingly irrelevant to you?
 
You can have all of those feelings / opinions simultaneously, they’re not mutually exclusive, it’s therefore a dumb question.

You’d have to wonder about the motives of the person / people who decided to ask it and publish the results in such a pisstaking manner.

Not really, the stages of grief tend to follow a certain path, not always I’ll grant you but usually. I’ve seen this many times while reorganising businesses. Everyone moves at different speeds and react to different situations, but it does tend to happen. Where would you put yourself ?......
 
Bruce kids leave school in my day it was apprenticeships training on the job day release block week release etc only the really stars in academics got to universities.......
Now it almost the complete reverse hence massive skill shortages - they say the young kids won't do the back breaking Horticultural/ Agricultural work in my day I did and many others did ...
Try getting work on your house by a skilled tradesman you can trust nowadays it's hard to find them......
Hence that's why untill the system is fixed we will always need immigration- alls we are now going to do is set up a work visa stopping free movement as your skill is valued as it is in countries outside the EU e.g. Usa New Zealand Canada etc etc
Yeah so who is going to do the ‘back breaking’ horticultural and agricultural work when the Govt is setting a £25k minimum wage visa requirement?
 
Exactly in the UK the old City & Guilds 4 year apprentice s are a dying breed - I became a NVQ assessor ......I labeled it Not Very Qualified..

I edited my post to include this: I've said what must be a dozen times though, free movement achieves better results than the managed approach you advocate. Why is this evidence over so many years seemingly irrelevant to you?
 
Not really, the stages of grief tend to follow a certain path, not always I’ll grant you but usually. I’ve seen this many times while reorganising businesses. Everyone moves at different speeds and react to different situations, but it does tend to happen. Where would you put yourself ?......

Merely by using the term ‘stages of grief’ both you and the publishers of that survey are taking the piss.

Trying to compare peoples feelings about Brexit with change management is laughable in its stupidity btw.
 
Merely by using the term ‘stages of grief’ both you and the publishers of that survey are taking the piss.

Trying to compare peoples feelings about Brexit with change management is laughable in its stupidity btw.

Not really, if you begin to understand where you currently are, honestly, it may help you to adapt or understand the situation and move forward. I’ll put you down in the angry stage.......
 
I edited my post to include this: I've said what must be a dozen times though, free movement achieves better results than the managed approach you advocate. Why is this evidence over so many years seemingly irrelevant to you?
Free movement means anyone can come on without a job ......try moving to the big countries outside the EU without a job.......
 
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