brexit party is the big unknown here will they hurt the Tories or Labour more?
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And yet the approval rating of Corbyn as a leader has been way below that of Johnson (and indeed May), which given how awful both have been might have given some pause for thought, except the Corbynites see no ill in their hero and hang to this notion that purdah will right all wrongs and give their plucky champ the fair crack he's been denied all this time.
And yet it's making zero difference in the polls. It's an approach that's aping what we see in the States, as it's hard to comprehend how anyone can support Trump, yet his support has largely remained steady despite balls up after balls up.
My guess is both.... but more so the Tory far right brexiteers. Boris deal, once Farage has had a go at it, will be seen by them as a surrender deal to the Eu. Can they support a ‘semi-brexit’
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His opinion also doesn't take into account that the liberal's are not just Labour's problem. They may win some marginal remainer Tory seats too. If we use Brexit as the barometer to what way the election will go then we know it will be split almost down the middle and no one will have a real majority to push it on.
We need to free up the issue via a referendum and then revert back to party politics that may see one side have a functioning government.
I believe that the Tories would be happy pushing Scotland away and with this the parliamentary equation would be stacked in their favour for generations to come.
No it isn't. I'm not sure the majority of the public consider the difference. Most people do not concern themselves with nuance of politics, they go for headline and soundbite.
The 'PM is a bigger liar than us' and 'trist us, we are slightly more trust worthy than him' just isn't cutting it I'm afraid.
The only way it gets attention or traction is if opposition MPs, in every single interview, absolutely hammer the detail of every point and refuse to move onto anything further unless it's factual; it invites the interviewer to facilitate and press further which is problematic for a campaign built on 'Brexit means Brexit' because it's completely devoid of detail or meaning. If the interviewer is complicit or doesn't facilitate properly, then expose it as false or misleading and refuse to answer until the acknowledgement comes. But it relies on being incredibly well briefed and disciplined - which, unfortunately is not always evident in those chosen to represent the Labour Party in media appearances.
The other alternative is something like 'Brexit means Brexit' which can just be repeated ad nauseum until it becomes truth.
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These are the people that have caused all this mess. Practically any other labour leader would have got behind the remain campaign and probably that would have been enough to swing it.
don't know honestly mate, tories have something to offer them if your inclined towards brexit should imagine if you are a traditional tory it's easier to swing that way,
labour /libs ect offer nothing if Brexit is your overriding political matter, while many traditionally labour voters will not vote tory, they will back the brexit party as was shown in the EURO elections.
don't think anyone will know till the votes are cast , lots could happen before any GE could turn it one way or the other as events unfold.
peteblue
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The remain vote is split in a GE. SNP, Green, Plaid, Labour, Lib Dem. Whereas the Leave vote is a straight shot for Tory or Brexit Party.
The Brexit Party will surely take seats from Labour too, so Labour's vote is further diminished.
I'd say while they may take more Tory seats, it hurts Labour more.
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This is the big problem for remainers. There has to be some serious tactical voting to prevent a BXP/tory majority.
The anti vote split between so many options is a gift to Johnson thanks to the very un democratic FPTP voting system.
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i dont think there will be enough savvy voting for this to happen
i fear the average voter will want 'brexit sorted' and that 'boris seems to be trying his best' and 'i'm not sure about that corbyn bloke'
this will lead to a tory majority...hopefully i am wrong and people come to there senses, if labour can get a good campaign going then you never know
I purchased a dangerous hero about Corbyn .....horrific true reading.... watching him in action yesterday it rang true waffling about no chance of him ever becoming PM thank god!
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