Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Disgruntledgoat]

DAS IST DER JOKE

Jokes are always funnier when a stupid person (me) explains them.

 

[Tubey]

More chance of NO Deal before that.....the EU may just boot us out only needs one veto.....

I don't think you've quite grasped that 'no deal' is literally illegal at this point.

 

[Tubey]

The statement by the DUP is illuminating. Basically, they haven't allowed Johnson to bully them into a panicked decision.

"Saturday’s vote in parliament on the proposals will only be the start of a long process to get any Withdrawal Agreement Bill through the House of Commons.”

They simply don't believe this is the last chance of Brexit, and to be fair they are right.

 

[orly]

Letwin has just endorsed the deal

 

[Joey66]

I don't think you've quite grasped that 'no deal' is literally illegal at this point.

No in law it is on statute in line with article 50...... the Benn Act just requires any letter which may be easier to get around so they say.... like a letter asking for an extension refusing to pay the 1 billion per month etc or two letters etc who knows a deal is the best way ...but let's see the deal and the legal context first if its like or worst than Mays its got no chance to much guessing atm
If the backstop is removed then it has to be different......

 

[orly]

The statement by the DUP is illuminating. Basically, they haven't allowed Johnson to bully them into a panicked decision.



They simply don't believe this is the last chance of Brexit, and to be fair they are right.

Wellllll not the last, but the key chance

 

[Khalekan]

This guy, Brian Walker, is one of the best commentators on NI issues IMO

https://sluggerotoole.com/2019/10/17/congratulations-dup-for-boosting-the-chances-for-remain/

 

[dublinbluenose]

More chance of NO Deal before that.....the EU may just boot us out only needs one veto.....

No deal is blocked until there's a GE, Torries will have to run on a No deal platform and thats not gonna get them a majority.

2nd ref on remain or Johnson deal is the only way out, unless the HOC approves the deal somehow on Saturday.

 

[Jebus_lives]

No in law it is on statute in line with article 50...... the Benn Act just requires any letter which may be easier to get around so they say.... like a letter asking for an extension refusing to pay the 1 billion per month etc or two letters etc who knows a deal is the best way ...but let's see the deal and the legal context first if its like or worst than Mays its got no chance to much guessing atm
If the backstop is removed then it has to be different......

A. Padfield v Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food: HL 14 Feb 1968

B. You are literally never going to read the legal text..stop pretending you have previously and will in future.

 

[Tubey]

... no surprises for guessing which Brexit Hobbit this was.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That graph shows a clear divergence between EU and Greece, Spain, unless I'm missing something

After Brexit, UK will have more migrants from outside EU, it's who controls the border, UK or EU

EU says they have no control, but they make the rules and want a hard border in Ireland to protect SM, but sit back when it's a probem

It's just about EU, policy and socio economic impact, sovereignty. If you don't control who is a citizen or your money supply, you stop being a country and become more of a state within a country

Yes, and there were various other countries that also performed poorly in the wake of the financial crisis. France, for instance, also has very high youth unemployment, whereas Germany, which has more foreign citizens living there than any other country in Europe, has among the lowest youth unemployment rates. Those countries had significant structural problems in their economy, and the great recession had a big impact. It's got bugger all to do with refugees from Syria.

And just so we're clear here, this was providing safe haven for people fleeing a war zone. There was a time when some Brits used to be lauded for that.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Surely the most sensible thing to do, given there seems to be some support for this, is to ask for an extension and have a genuine debate about the merits.

It's only Boris Johnson's 'die in a ditch' language that is stopping it and, I think the sensible elements of society will say that a new deal deserves proper deliberation. Ask for the extension, then bring this deal to Parliament, let the debate be had, make sure it can be legally binding, then of it's agreed within the extension period, then so be it.

Rushing a 500+ page document through Parliament and the EU, on an issue this important is not a responsible.

 

[dandydan]

No deal is blocked until there's a GE, Torries will have to run on a No deal platform and thats not gonna get them a majority.

I wouldn't bet the mortgage on that if I were you.

 

[peteblue]

VAR may decide it .....

hahahahaha........

 

[Eggs]

......Johnson being lauded as a hero by his own. It’s as expected. For some reason the Conservative Party remind me of LFC.