Current Affairs EU In or Out

[orly]

While they might be right.....

SNP MP Drew Hendry says of the new Brexit deal: "You don’t need to see the deal to know it’s a worse deal.

"This is going to do untold harm.

"We will not be voting for something that will cause enormous damage to communities."

No, MPs DO need to see the deal before making a decision ffs.

 

[dwightschrute]

What did I tell you yesterday @Joey66

Farage: 'It's just not Brexit'
On the deal, Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage says: “It’s just not Brexit.
“If this was to be agreed, we then enter into years more negotiations for the prize of a free trade agreement which we already know we will not get.. unless we stay in regulatory alignment in the European Union.”
He says this then means “we will not be making our own laws in our own country” and says the treaty “binds us in to other commitments on foreign policy, military policy - a list as long as your arm”.
“I frankly think it should be rejected,” he says. “The best way out would be simply to have a clean break.”

Whos side are you on Johnson or Farage? The Peoples Front of Judea are splitting!

 

[orly]

What did I tell you yesterday @Joey66

Farage: 'It's just not Brexit'
On the deal, Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage says: “It’s just not Brexit.
“If this was to be agreed, we then enter into years more negotiations for the prize of a free trade agreement which we already know we will not get.. unless we stay in regulatory alignment in the European Union.”
He says this then means “we will not be making our own laws in our own country” and says the treaty “binds us in to other commitments on foreign policy, military policy - a list as long as your arm”.
“I frankly think it should be rejected,” he says. “The best way out would be simply to have a clean break.”

Whos side are you on Johnson or Farage? The Peoples Front of Judea are splitting!

Well, it's not getting Farage's vote then.

 

[Paris]

Farage has made his career off the back of Brexit. If we Brexit he'd have nothing to do and would sink back to obscurity where he and his ilk belongs, so he will be as difficult as possible. Indeed, you could ask if it's in his personal interests for Brexit to go through?

 

[fnarrr]

Maybe not?
This deal gets voted down. Under the Benn act, Boris has to ask for an extension and the EU say 'no'...
4 votes on 2 deals in parliament with zero success Why bother granting a further extension?

Because the EU don't want to be viewed as the reason the UK crashes out and a land border comes to Ireland. They'll extend and they'll push for the UK to have an election, which we will.

 

[dwightschrute]

Well, it's not getting Farage's vote then.

Or a lot of right wing votes in marginal North seats that the tories are targeting. Hopefully which will mean under FPTP that Labour will win as Farage will split the vote

 

[dublinbluenose]

 

[DowellsLeftPeg]

Refugees are typically (and wrongly imo) forbidden from working, so how has that contributed to youth unemployment in Greece?

Hmm. Financial crisis or blaming migrants. Didn't Mark Baum warn about precisely that?

That graph shows a clear divergence between EU and Greece, Spain, unless I'm missing something

After Brexit, UK will have more migrants from outside EU, it's who controls the border, UK or EU

EU says they have no control, but they make the rules and want a hard border in Ireland to protect SM, but sit back when it's a probem

It's just about EU, policy and socio economic impact, sovereignty. If you don't control who is a citizen or your money supply, you stop being a country and become more of a state within a country

 

[Joey66]

2nd ref incoming

More chance of NO Deal before that.....the EU may just boot us out only needs one veto.....

 

[DowellsLeftPeg]

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/bre...nts-article-50-negotiations-united-kingdom_en

 

[PaulPowersTash]

Because the EU don't want to be viewed as the reason the UK crashes out and a land border comes to Ireland. They'll extend and they'll push for the UK to have an election, which we will.

I don't think they will just push for an election - they will make it a condition of the extension.
Either a GE or a second referendum will be mandatory. It is the only way to get through the
current impasse in our parliament.

 

[Eggs]

Just reading the text now... first impression is this is the backstop reworked and doing the exact same thing. It will get the exact same response.

Johnson has done absolutely nothing different to what Theresa May did, except whittle down the Tories to a minority government. A breathtaking failure.

....his opposition to the May deal was to gain power. If if this isn’t passed, he will say he brokered a deal and MPs rejected it. Don’t underestimate this lot. He’s doing enough to get a majority at a GE, he’s only up against a Corbyn and he will only appeal to the few.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Well, it's not getting Farage's vote then.

He doesn't have one... Which always makes me chuckle.

 

[DowellsLeftPeg]

 

[orly]

He doesn't have one... Which always makes me chuckle.

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