Current Affairs EU In or Out

[roydo]

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That's not a concession, it's a mechanic.

All these negotiations are is to figure out how the UK meets the EU red lines.

Border in the Irish Sea, Northern Ireland effectively remaining in the EU and the DUP bought off.

As I and a few others have said for ages now.

Brexit/FOM/GFA are an impossible marriage of convenience.

 

[orly]

Now

Does big Jez bash the Lib Dems into the ground with a free vote

If so - NUMBERS.

 

[Tubey]

Now

Does big Jez bash the Lib Dems into the ground with a free vote

If so - NUMBERS.

I can't see how he can three line whip it really. There's loads in the PLP who'd love the excuse to go. He's get 20 odd rebels regardless.

He'd have been able to whip against a no deal but not a deal.

 

[orly]

I can't see how he can three line whip it really. There's loads in the PLP who'd love the excuse to go. He's get 20 odd rebels regardless.

He'd have been able to whip against a no deal but not a deal.

Mein Finking too mr Tubey.

Plus many of his key labour constituencies are Leave, so he essentially delivers Brexit as the gatekeeper to the Implementation Period.

Deal passes by 50 votes IF Arlene and Sammy and Francois Gamgee is on board

 

[catcherintherye]

Mein Finking too mr Tubey.

Plus many of his key labour constituencies are Leave, so he essentially delivers Brexit as the gatekeeper to the Implementation Period.

Deal passes by 50 votes IF Arlene and Sammy and Francois Gamgee is on board

How do you think that plays to his remain voters though? And does it open up a potential door for the Lib Dems to harden support amongst them with the idea that Labour sold the remain camp down the river?

 

[orly]

How do you think that plays to his remain voters though? And does it open up a potential door for the Lib Dems to harden support amongst them with the idea that Labour sold the remain camp down the river?

One-policy Remainers will go Lib Dem, sure.

By the time a GE comes around, Labour voters will vote Labour. Back to partisan politics. That's why EU / local council voting patterns are historically so different to GE.

Labour isn't the Party of Remain, or revoke, or 2nd Ref. It's just firm on no No Deal, which make alotta sense.

Lib Dems - beyond remaining, their domestic agenda has no national exposure.

Perhaps they can betray the student vote again... or something

 

[sbbefc]

So the deal is a NI only backstop? Why didn't they just propose that a year so ago?

 

[DowellsLeftPeg]

Can you elaborate on the welfare issues please?

Sure thing, so as a part of the SM, we are competing with other EU countries on trade. Some subsidies or support can be considered to give a competitive advantage, and if they don't, it's probably making our products less competitive to EU counterparts. The higher our standards, often the smaller our market due to price

As a crude example, an increase in minimum wage, could see increased EU immigration, but in other areas see jobs relocate to other parts of EU

As you approach full employment, its often likely that more people will flow in to fill roles, so often EU countries with high living standards get high migration which leads towards high youth unemployment. Over 30% of 18-25 year olds in Spain, Italy are unemployed, it was 40% 18-25 unemployed in Greece when I last looked

This ends up creating a skills gaps for young workers, and the more talented ones tend to emigrate, as the economy struggles

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

I think the EU are snookered, and they will have to vote on the deal later

Barnier has said he expects a deal today

Johnson is snookered behind the green pal, and there's no easy escape route.

 

[davek]

No deal tonight.

DUP must be holding out for Bentley's and gold taps for their houses.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Sure thing, so as a part of the SM, we are competing with other EU countries on trade. Some subsidies or support can be considered to give a competitive advantage, and if they don't, it's probably making our products less competitive to EU counterparts. The higher our standards, often the smaller our market due to price

As a crude example, an increase in minimum wage, could see increased EU immigration, but in other areas see jobs relocate to other parts of EU

As you approach full employment, its often likely that more people will flow in to fill roles, so often EU countries with high living standards get high migration which leads towards high youth unemployment. Over 30% of 18-25 year olds in Spain, Italy are unemployed, it was 40% 18-25 unemployed in Greece when I last looked

This ends up creating a skills gaps for young workers, and the more talented ones tend to emigrate, as the economy struggles

So much factual inaccuracies

 

[Blues Harp]

No deal tonight.

DUP must be holding out for Bentley's and gold taps for their houses.

Or a guarantee from johnson that their homophobic and anti-abortion laws will be imposed on the rest of the UK.

 

[davek]

Or a guarantee from johnson that their homophobic and anti-abortion laws will be imposed on the rest of the UK.

He'll be guaranteeing them everyone in the UK has to wear bowler hats and sashes if it gets his pathetic deal signed off.

 

[orly]

No Deal - tonight

 

[Jebus_lives]