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[orly]

Which, of course, is the whole point - they want the deal shoved in their faces before they can digest it so they panic pass it through out of fear of the vocal constituents in Leave voting areas, who have paralyzed MPs to act against common sense since the vote.

But whatever - if it passes, it passes. No ifs and buts. But if it is possibly illegal, I have no problem at all with legal challenges to it. But lets wait to see the minutiae of it first.

Tbh Tubes... Hansard before the first vote - we were well over a year into A50 and half the House had no idea about the most fundamental stuff. 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 quarters of a year ---- would still all be too much for some of them to be arsed learning it before the biggest vote of our time bar the Iraq War

 

[Blues Harp]

Brexitirs are watching HOC delegates Vince greens Lammy, co avid remainers pushing for another people s vote.....
They are pathetic more uncertainty....
Get this divorce done and then have a trade deal in transition. Which Germany and f
France don't want the UK to excel on leaving....
That says it all.....

Dafuq is this? Love your friend Nigel.....go and join them then.... lol lol lol

 

[summerisle]

Taking back control.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Italy and Greece levels have both dropped from the start of the year, but still relatively high

Greece Youth Unemployment Rate

Youth Unemployment Rate in Greece increased to 16 percent in January from 13.90 percent in December of 2025. This page provides the latest reported value for - Greece Youth Unemployment Rate - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term prediction, economic...

tradingeconomics.com

And what does that have to do with migration?

 

[DowellsLeftPeg]

And what does that have to do with migration?

https://www.ecfr.eu/specials/mapping_migration

 

[DowellsLeftPeg]

High levels of youth unemployment in Italy and Greece have nothing to do with immigration and neither economy is near full employment.

Of course none of them are near full employment

The point was that countries always want to lower unemployment, but economic factors and the supply of labour can change dynamics

 

[dublinbluenose]

Of course none of them are near full employment

The point was that countries always want to lower unemployment, but economic factors and the supply of labour can change dynamics

So your post has so many factual inaccuracies as I posted, or tropes as some people might say.

As you approach full employment, its often likely that more people will flow in to fill roles, so often EU countries with high living standards get high migration which leads towards high youth unemployment. Over 30% of 18-25 year olds in Spain, Italy are unemployed, it was 40% 18-25 unemployed in Greece when I last looked

 

[Jebus_lives]

He hasn't even seen it ffs

I think it's mainly due to this wording:

55Single United Kingdom customs territory
(1)It shall be unlawful for Her Majesty’s Government to enter into arrangements under which Northern Ireland forms part of a separate customs territory to Great Britain.

(2)For the purposes of this section “customs territory” shall have the same meaning as in the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade 1947 as amended.

Sound's an awful lot like what is being proposed.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Interesting, but I'm assuming there's a workaround to it where Northern Ireland isn't classed as a separate customs territory under the terms of the deal.



Yeah essentially this ^

I know Rees-Mogg/Johnson et al are incompetent morons but they can't be this incompetent.

They definitely can.

 

[Bluerover]

So the deal is a NI only backstop? Why didn't they just propose that a year so ago?

Indeed!

I think it's mainly due to this wording:

55Single United Kingdom customs territory
(1)It shall be unlawful for Her Majesty’s Government to enter into arrangements under which Northern Ireland forms part of a separate customs territory to Great Britain.

(2)For the purposes of this section “customs territory” shall have the same meaning as in the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade 1947 as amended.

Sound's an awful lot like what is being proposed.

Parliament can pass an amendment to this that deletes any sections that are inconsistent with any agreement.

 

[Bluerover]

RTE says negotiations continuing through the night with VAT still the outstanding issue to be resolved.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Interesting, but I'm assuming there's a workaround to it where Northern Ireland isn't classed as a separate customs territory under the terms of the deal.



Yeah essentially this ^

I know Rees-Mogg/Johnson et al are incompetent morons but they can't be this incompetent.

That's a Moggy amendment be funny if that scuppers Johnson's deal.

 

[davek]

Pro-Brexit Tory MP 'can't support deal without seeing text'
Steve Baker, who chairs the ERG group of pro-Brexit Tory MPs, says he "hopes" the group "will be with the prime minister", but there are "thousands of people out there counting on us not to let them down".
Speaking to reporters as he left talks in Downing Street, Mr Baker said the group had explained its concerns in "minute detail", and "great progress" had been made in discussions with No 10.
"We are just really wishing the prime minister well and hoping he has total success.
"We know there will be compromises, but we will be looking at this deal in minute detail with a view to supporting it but until we see that text, we can't say".




@Joey66 thousands of people?!? Surely he means 17.4millions

Steve Baker = a very principled man.

Rejected and pilloried May's deal, now he's talking about 'great progress' on the clown's deal that surrenders part of the UK.

The 'kin "Spartans".

Lol.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Not happening at all this is it.

Either the DUP are going to say NO as expected, or it will de defeated in the HOC. Or both.

Enough is enough. There has to be another referendum.

 

[davek]

Not happening at all this is it.

Either the DUP are going to say NO as expected, or it will de defeated in the HOC. Or both.

Enough is enough. There has to be another referendum.

A referendum might be attached to passing the deal as a compromise.