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No miliatary there.......
Certainly lasted a long time before the military had to join in during the troubles

What do you mean by "open" - like it is now?

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The way it used to be. For those of us who can remember the bad old days, the border is certainly not a phantom issue.


Customs officers check cars at the old Killen-Carrickarnon border post

Customs officers check cars at the old Killen-Carrickarnon border post
 
Joey once again showing himself up as the uneducated, bereft of any rational thought and hinting at his real reasons for voting leave. You couldn’t make it up.
 
1923 agreement -
There are no longer any operational customs posts along either side of the border. Except during a brief period during World War II, it has never been necessary for Irish or British citizens to produce a passport to cross the border.
30 years in the irish troubles there was a hard border now removed
You managed to copy and paste the only part of the section that requires citation. Had you copied the rest of the section you'd have included:

'Customs controls were introduced on the frontier on 1 April 1923, shortly after the establishment of the Irish Free State.[10] These controls were maintained, with varying degrees of severity, until 1 January 1993, when systematic customs checks were abolished between European Community member states as part of the single market.[11][12][13] There are no longer any operational customs posts along either side of the border. Except during a brief period during World War II, it has never been necessary for Irish or British citizens to produce a passport to cross the border. However during the 1970s troubles, security forces regularly asked travellers for identification.[citation needed]'
 
You managed to copy and paste the only part of the section that requires citation. Had you copied the rest of the section you'd have included:

'Customs controls were introduced on the frontier on 1 April 1923, shortly after the establishment of the Irish Free State.[10] These controls were maintained, with varying degrees of severity, until 1 January 1993, when systematic customs checks were abolished between European Community member states as part of the single market.[11][12][13] There are no longer any operational customs posts along either side of the border. Except during a brief period during World War II, it has never been necessary for Irish or British citizens to produce a passport to cross the border. However during the 1970s troubles, security forces regularly asked travellers for identification.[citation needed]'
Your interpretation, 1933 there was fee movement, with check ponts here and there not a hard border by the miliatary......only the outbreak of war in 1939 and the the sad troubles a very hard border exisited.....
 
Joe, there wasn’t an open border from 1923. That is a historical fact. There were border posts and several military campaigns against them.

You are wrong Joe, simple as.


@Joey66

There were a whole bunch of people killed when a bomb exploded prematurely in a customs post in Killeen, Co. Armagh in the 1970s.

I remember that well because I was pen pal (there’s one for the teenagers lol ) with a girl from Dundalk then and she knew one of the RA men who lost their lives in it....a fellow named Oliver Rowntree.





As a boy, in the 60s before the balloon went up in 1969, I would spend a few weeks in Belfast every summer in the school holiers.

My granny brought me over and nearly every year we had an train excursion to Dublin with her sisters and a bunch of their grandchildren.

(Or to Drogheda a time or two to see Oliver Plunkett’s head :()

That train stopped at Portadown and customs officers from 6 of 9 came on and did spot checks.

The train then stopped at Dundalk, Co. Louth when customs men from 26 of 32 dis the same thing :(

No customs since 1923....my Aunt Fanny :)
 
Your interpretation, 1933 there was fee movement, with check ponts here and there not a hard border by the miliatary......only the outbreak of war in 1939 and the the sad troubles a very hard border exisited.....
It's not my interpretation, it's just the additional part of the section you ommited when you copied it from Wikipedia.
 
Your interpretation, 1933 there was fee movement, with check ponts here and there not a hard border by the miliatary......only the outbreak of war in 1939 and the the sad troubles a very hard border exisited.....

Jesus, you really aren't bright enough to grasp any of this.
 
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