Carl O'Ancelotti
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A microcosm of the entire British border question. A complete ignorance of why it is there, how it is enforced and the absolute indifference to attend to the moral duty of upholding your own International Treaty.
Caught you out, exactly no Border necessary plus in 1922 free movement into the UK from Ireland......
Carl O'Ancelotti
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Erm, you didn't catch anyone out. There was a customs border here from 1922 to 1993 prior to the introduction of the Single Market. It certainly wasn't open as you claim; there were queues of lorries for miles waiting to cross it. And it had absolutely nothing to do with us using the Punt before the Euro as you claim.
In addition the CTA works both ways you know - UK citizens have always been free to come and live here, and many of them have done over the years and still do.
Caught me out?
Are you telling me that there was no border while there was punt/pound?
Are you also telling me there was free movement from Dublin to Armagh from 1922?
1923 agreement -
There are no longer any operational customs posts along either side of the border. Except during a brief period during World War II, it has never been necessary for Irish or British citizens to produce a passport to cross the border.
30 years in the irish troubles there was a hard border now removed
Nice Googling Joe. Now Try the ‘Irish Border Campaign’
And in modern day, as you aluded to in your copy and paste, locals were subjected to checkpoints at the border. Why was this Joe?
Don't like the facts do you?
What facts am I wrong on Joe?
Spell them out and I’m happy to debate and be proven wrong. We’re all Blues on here.
The was a border back in the early 1920s in 1923 the British government pass d free movement over that border only a hard border was set up for the sad troubles that lasted 30 years. Even without the troubles there as always been an open border with free movement since 1923 even the two currencies like now did not stop trade!
Joe, there wasn’t an open border from 1923. That is a historical fact. There were border posts and several military campaigns against them.
You are wrong Joe, simple as.
"Customs barriers were introduced by the Irish Free State government in 1923 in a bid to achieve fiscal independence from Britain and to generate revenue for the exchequer.
For this fiscal independence to be enforced successfully, it was ‘necessary to surround the Free State with a complete Customs ring’. This posed little problems for goods coming in and out of the main ports. It was the ‘land frontier’ (the boundary between Northern Ireland and the Irish Free State meandering some 270 miles from Carlingford Lough to Lough Foyle) that gave rise to most of the complications.
Pending the findings of the Boundary Commission, the Free State government decided to impose a ‘temporary frontier’ along the boundary line. This ‘temporary frontier’ would last for almost 70 years."
From https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/re...rthern-ireland-peace-process-2836626-Jun2016/
The was a lined border onlyhard border post in world war 2 and then the troubles..,
No miliatary there.......
"Customs barriers were introduced by the Irish Free State government in 1923 in a bid to achieve fiscal independence from Britain and to generate revenue for the exchequer.
For this fiscal independence to be enforced successfully, it was ‘necessary to surround the Free State with a complete Customs ring’. This posed little problems for goods coming in and out of the main ports. It was the ‘land frontier’ (the boundary between Northern Ireland and the Irish Free State meandering some 270 miles from Carlingford Lough to Lough Foyle) that gave rise to most of the complications.
Pending the findings of the Boundary Commission, the Free State government decided to impose a ‘temporary frontier’ along the boundary line. This ‘temporary frontier’ would last for almost 70 years."
From https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/re...rthern-ireland-peace-process-2836626-Jun2016/
The racism is unveiled. How sad.
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