Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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All sorts of lovely things like staying in the single market and customs union. I don't think the EU would have any problem at all with that. It benefits them too.

*sigh

To stay in the single market means that Britain has to keep free movement of people and can't negotiate any trade deals of its own. Do you think those who voted to leave the EU will go for that? Really?

I know I moaned yesterday about any discussions via the media inevitably dumbing things down, but that can't be the crux of Corbyn's apparent master plan can it? It must be slightly more thought out than that.
 
*sigh

To stay in the single market means that Britain has to keep free movement of people and can't negotiate any trade deals of its own. Do you think those who voted to leave the EU will go for that? Really?

I know I moaned yesterday about any discussions via the media inevitably dumbing things down, but that can't be the crux of Corbyn's apparent master plan can it? It must be slightly more thought out than that.
Well I guess we have to wait for full details to come out rather than just what's come out so far. But you'd presume it's been thought out wouldn't you, if what they've said about conversations with Brussels are true, and they've got Keir Starmer on it who is streets ahead of the likes of Davis and Raab.

Whether those who voted to leave the EU will go for his deal remains to be seen I guess. But if we were to leave the EU then this kind of soft Brexit is by far the most palatable.
 
Well I guess we have to wait for full details to come out rather than just what's come out so far. But you'd presume it's been thought out wouldn't you, if what they've said about conversations with Brussels are true, and they've got Keir Starmer on it who is streets ahead of the likes of Davis and Raab.

Whether those who voted to leave the EU will go for his deal remains to be seen I guess. But if we were to leave the EU then this kind of soft Brexit is by far the most palatable.

You'll have to forgive me, as Corbyn's talk of renegotiating the deal has been going on as long as the Tories talk of a technological solution to the border. The fact that neither Corbyn or Johnson are held in high esteem by the EU sends enormous warnings about their credibility. We've had three (or more) years of vapid soundbites. If he's going public with his stance, as he appears to have done with the Guardian piece, then we need details, not fluff.
 
You'll have to forgive me, as Corbyn's talk of renegotiating the deal has been going on as long as the Tories talk of a technological solution to the border. The fact that neither Corbyn or Johnson are held in high esteem by the EU sends enormous warnings about their credibility. We've had three (or more) years of vapid soundbites. If he's going public with his stance, as he appears to have done with the Guardian piece, then we need details, not fluff.

Of course detail is needed, that goes without saying, so we'll have to hope that comes. I don't think you can blame Corbyn for talking of renegotiating and not acting when he hasn't been in government.
 
Of course detail is needed, that goes without saying, so we'll have to hope that comes. I don't think you can blame Corbyn for talking of renegotiating and not acting when he hasn't been in government.

As he's been pushing the renegotiation angle for most of the last few years, I think it's fair to hold him to account for that pledge. It's exactly the same line Johnson used during the leadership campaign, as though the right negotiator can turn a turd into a banquet.
 
*sigh

To stay in the single market means that Britain has to keep free movement of people and can't negotiate any trade deals of its own. Do you think those who voted to leave the EU will go for that? Really?

I know I moaned yesterday about any discussions via the media inevitably dumbing things down, but that can't be the crux of Corbyn's apparent master plan can it? It must be slightly more thought out than that.

He keeps the moderate leavers who don't know what they are talking about and just see leaving as leaving, he also appeals to the remainers who know the lib dems aren't going to sweep the house in a massive landslide. It's not a perfect solution but there isn't a perfect position to take. You are always going to alienate a group in this.
 
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