Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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davek said:
Johnson's has boxed himself in with the 'die in a ditch' statement on an extension.

He has to cobble something together by way of a deal and an all Ireland backstop would do it...or at least it'd be something that could be sold as a deal even if rejected by parliament.
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What's your thoughts on Labour rejecting the GE, Dave? You seemed certain it would lead to one, didn't you?

Want to be clear I'm not sticking up for the Tories or blasting Labour. I actually thought both sides raised valid points last night (I watched up until 1am) - though Bercow stole the show with his "maybe the whips will tell them to get... a... life) statement :D

I actually have a bit more respect back for Corbyn after last night. He stood firm and made clear points.

However, I don't trust his party. End of. No more than I trust the Tories.
 
The binman chronicles said:
I wasn't talking about how much we pay in, and then what the EU spends on projects around the UK. Net contribution is just a word put out there to make it seem the EU are somehow scamming us. I was talking about the benefits and opportunities that being part of the common market afford us and that is worth way more than 250 million a week.

Up above you have described that the governor of the BoE has downgraded the effect on the economy down to somewhere over 5% with a no deal. You make it seem ok we can carry on with that, but then say other countries will be desperate for our business. Each EU country will have a small percentage of the economy effected by Brexit but all those percent add up to effecting ours. So which one is it, we will all be fine? In which case the EU don't need a deal. Or if you think they are going to struggle losing a % or two then we are going to be screwed with a 5% hit on the economy. In which case the EU still hold the upper hand.
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But each EU doesn't have a small percentage. Some do, but it is not evenly spread. Germany, France and the Netherlands have huge trade surpluses with us. This is going to create tensions between the EU elite in the ivory towers in Brussels and member states. The yellow vests will have a field day.
 
In this whole Brexit thing, amongst the many causes, pitfalls, banana skins, faux pas (plural), missed opportunities etc. One has gone unremarked upon...or if it has I missed it...
This new fixed term Election thing, its the opposite of a wild card / get out of jail / advance directly to go collect £200 / joker, etc.
For one, It stops PMs calling, or for that matter, running a bluff...or in Mays case falling on your face
Whose bright idea was this?
 
Joey66 said:
I watch the news even Kevin Maquie admitted with the party conferences it was an extra 4 days shut down - in this time the could have been a GE .....but the opposition were Frit......
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I suppose you missed lots of mp's wanting to change conference legislation, bit didn't have enough time to do so by virtue of the proroguing of Parliament.

degsy said:
In this whole Brexit thing, amongst the many causes, pitfalls, banana skins, faux pas (plural), missed opportunities etc. One has gone unremarked upon...or if it has I missed it...
This new fixed term Election thing, its the opposite of a wild card / get out of jail / advance directly to go collect £200 / joker, etc.
For one, It stops PMs calling, or for that matter, running a bluff...or in Mays case falling on your face
Whose bright idea was this?
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Cameron iirc. Been criticised widely whenever its presence has been felt during the last couple of years.
 
degsy said:
In this whole Brexit thing, amongst the many causes, pitfalls, banana skins, faux pas (plural), missed opportunities etc. One has gone unremarked upon...or if it has I missed it...
This new fixed term Election thing, its the opposite of a wild card / get out of jail / advance directly to go collect £200 / joker, etc.
For one, It stops PMs calling, or for that matter, running a bluff...or in Mays case falling on your face
Whose bright idea was this?
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a handy guide to who proposed or was responsible for what in this crisis:

Fixed Term Parliament Act - Tories
calling Brexit Referendum - Tories
running both the Brexit Referendum campaigns - Tories
2017 General Election - Tories
Brexit Negotiations - Tories
the key MPs who blocked May's deal (three times), ruining the Government's negotiation strategy - Tories
 
orchard said:
I suppose you missed lots of mp's wanting to change conference legislation, bit didn't have enough time to do so by virtue of the proroguing of Parliament.


Cameron iirc. Been criticised widely whenever its presence has been felt during the last couple of years.
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It was actually Nick Clegg remember that idiot -now residing on the west coast of the USA with a cushy job with Facebook........
 
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