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[Toast]

How does this asking to see peoples personal emails ect play out surely its illegal to do that unless they have broken the law.

Well it's gone through.

This could be proper messy.

 

[orchard]

How does this asking to see peoples personal emails ect play out surely its illegal to do that unless they have broken the law.

Oh, and the irony, after the Con's introducing loads of surveillance measures to spy on citizens without warrant/reason. What was it, if you've nothing to hide?

 

[Xizor]

How does this asking to see peoples personal emails ect play out surely its illegal to do that unless they have broken the law.

Are they personal emails or work-related emails going through personal servers to avoid scrutiny?

 

[edge]

Work, but some have been abusing regulations in using private devices/means for official correspondence, ,allegedly, they've also been using burners ffs...

Think they have cocked up over reachinging themselfs , the yellowhammer report they could have seen , but peoples private devices ect , cant see that happening at all,
at best it would go to court and under what law are they using to get that access?
Who says what is private and whats not?
Just because 309 people in the commons want to see them isnt good enough.
Going forward do we get the tories asking to see Corbyns or Gerry Addams private stuff at some piont.?
Think Grieve has shot himself in the foot with this one.

 

[Blues Harp]

It seems to me that the "politicians" who are being feted as anti establishment eg Johnson, Farage, Rees Mogg by some leavers are actually products of public school education and privilege, and in fact they actually are the establishment. Orwellian concept at its best. Pretty depressing thought I think.

 

[edge]

Oh, and the irony, after the Con's introducing loads of surveillance measures to spy on citizens without warrant/reason. What was it, if you've nothing to hide?

If i got your personal stuff phone ect and put it out in public
Forget the politics would you be happy with it?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Will be kind of ironic if the EU GDPR law is the thing that stops the release of the texts/emails etc.

 

[orchard]

Think they have cocked up over reachinging themselfs , the yellowhammer report they could have seen , but peoples private devices ect , cant see that happening at all,
at best it would go to court and under what law are they using to get that access?
Who says what is private and whats not?
Just because 309 people in the commons want to see them isnt good enough.
Going forward do we get the tories asking to see Corbyns or Gerry Addams private stuff at some piont.?
Think Grieve has shot himself in the foot with this one.

They're not supposed to be using personal devices/methods for accountability reasons, yet they have...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Doesn't it stem from Grieve alleging that he's received word from insiders that the government is deploying a nice bit of smoke and mirrors, especially as no official was willing to put their signature to a document confirming the government's line in court?

 

[orchard]

If i got your personal stuff phone ect and put it out in public
Forget the politics would you be happy with it?

It's WORK mate, property of the Crown. The details almost certainly won't be released to the public. Everything I do on my personal phone/network is accessible to many government departments, thanks to part to these jokers that are going to refuse to obey the law. And still, Government and SPADS using burners ffs...

 

[orchard]

Doesn't it stem from Grieve alleging that he's received word from insiders that the government is deploying a nice bit of smoke and mirrors, especially as no official was willing to put their signature to a document confirming the government's line in court?

Yep, deffo, Grieve demonstrated duplicity and untrustworthiness well.

 

[Minimeister]

It seems to me that the "politicians" who are being feted as anti establishment eg Johnson, Farage, Rees Mogg by some leavers are actually products of public school education and privilege, and in fact they actually are the establishment. Orwellian concept at its best. Pretty depressing thought I think.

Men of the people....like when the BBC have Kelvin McKenzie as a voice of the people on Question Time. We live amongst morons.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

If it’s undemocratic to block a vote that was built upon xenophobia, racism, nationalism and misguided nostalgia, largely driven by lies and propaganda then sign me up to the autocratic state please.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Hearing that the ERG are coming round to a referendum in Northern Ireland for the backstop... DUP getting shafted, imagine Farage is also frothing.

 

[Xizor]

If it’s undemocratic to block a vote that was built upon xenophobia, racism, nationalism and misguided nostalgia, largely driven by lies and propaganda then sign me up to the autocratic state please.

It's a nightmarish dystopian vision of a future where power resides in a small group of 600-odd 'honourables' chosen via secret ballot by a shadowy, unaccountable group called 'the electorate'.