Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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arminisgod said:
I like foreigners. Just don't like it when the polish lads take the last bottle of milk so my 86 yr old granny has to have tea without milk
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It is far better for her.

I gave up milk in tea about three years ago and not only do I feel the better for it, the tea tastes much better and is a more refreshing drink.
 
The binman chronicles said:
Ok thanks I can see what you are saying now. Honestly I'm not taking the worst case scenario figures to frighten, the financial sector is apparently worth 20% of GDP, this obviously includes your bog standard banking which would still be here but it wouldn't be a push to imagine the investment arms are worth 3-5% of that if not more. Add in all the other businesses that leave/change structure and are not around anymore to service the RotW after losing that much of their business within the EU and a 10% hit isn't a huge exaggeration.
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The City of London is an institution mate. It isn't just going to plonk itself in Frankfurt in the event of a no deal Brexit. Honestly. The whole infrastructure is massive. Worst case scenario is that companies will move part of their business to Europe and a lot will possibly not even do that. In the longer term as companies plan new investment, it may well be in Frankfurt if things haven't been sorted between the UK and EU, so over time it may become more important than London. But that will probably take many years, possibly decades, if it even happens at all.

I actually used to work in Private Banking before I retired and have friends who are still in the game. They are worried about a no deal obviously, but it won't result in a mass exodus of the sort you are expecting. Any job losses at all will still be too many though.

As I said, lets hope it doesn't get to the stage where one of us gets to be proved right.
 
OnlyBlueWillDo said:
4th/5th who's counting, we are a major export for the EU, 64bn reasons they'd like to keep it nice and simple to trade with us.
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Currently the UK is 7th. The EU has maintained all throughout the process that they'd prefer the UK to stay in the EU. If that's not possible then of course they will want a deal, it's why they negotiated a Withdrawal Agreement, which the UK Parliament continually rejected.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
The City of London is an institution mate. It isn't just going to plonk itself in Frankfurt in the event of a no deal Brexit. Honestly. The whole infrastructure is massive. Worst case scenario is that companies will move part of their business to Europe and a lot will possibly not even do that.
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Do the financial institutions have to have a 'passport' that thing that allows them to sell financial products and to do that they have to be in the EU ?
 
arminisgod said:
That's kinda my point. You are a moderate leave voter. But want a deal.

I'm more hard-line. I want to leave and if it's without a deal... So be it. But I want to leave with a deal that suits us.

The EU is our biggest trading partner... Let's be sensible. The EU have been anything but
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The EU is in a difficult position. I truly believe it wants to stay close to us because we bring so much to the table plus we are their biggest trading partner . But at the same time they want to keep the infrastructure of the EU together and making things too easy for us could encourage others to break away. I don't blame them for the deal that is on the table now. They took advantage of a very weak UK delegation, and we would have done exactly the same had the boot been on the other foot.

But now it's clear that the existing deal will not get through our Parliament, and we are literally 2 months away from a no deal Brexit which nobody will benefit from, I'm hoping they agree to reopen negotiations. We'll see.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
Currently the UK is 7th. The EU has maintained all throughout the process that they'd prefer the UK to stay in the EU. If that's not possible then of course they will want a deal, it's why they negotiated a Withdrawal Agreement, which the UK Parliament continually rejected.
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I've read a very reliable source saying we are still 5th, but whatever.

Have you ever wondered why the EU want us to stay, most of the EU major nations can't stand us because we have been a major power in the world for such a small island for centuries, we conquered half the world at one point, a lot of bitterness towards the UK from the EU, you only have to watch Eurovision to see that.

If the EU thought we'd fall flat on our face and become weaker they'd have made it much more agreeable in the deal they've offered to allow us to leave, they fear us becoming stronger not weaker, they know they have to make a good trade deal with us because they sell us £64bn more goods than we sell to them.

Sometimes I really wonder what remainers are scared of, they've been brainwashed by project fear.
 
OnlyBlueWillDo said:
I've read a very reliable source saying we are still 5th, but whatever.

Have you ever wondered why the EU want us to stay, most of the EU major nations can't stand us because we have been a major power in the world for such a small island for centuries, we conquered half the world at one point, a lot of bitterness towards the UK from the EU, you only have to watch Eurovision to see that.

If the EU thought we'd fall flat on our face and become weaker they'd have made it much more agreeable in the deal they've offered to allow us to leave, they fear us becoming stronger not weaker, they know they have to make a good trade deal with us because they sell us £64bn more goods than we sell to them.

Sometimes I really wonder what remainers are scared of, they've been brainwashed by project fear.
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OnlyBlueWillDo said:
I've read a very reliable source saying we are still 5th, but whatever.

Have you ever wondered why the EU want us to stay, most of the EU major nations can't stand us because we have been a major power in the world for such a small island for centuries, we conquered half the world at one point, a lot of bitterness towards the UK from the EU, you only have to watch Eurovision to see that.

If the EU thought we'd fall flat on our face and become weaker they'd have made it much more agreeable in the deal they've offered to allow us to leave, they fear us becoming stronger not weaker, they know they have to make a good trade deal with us because they sell us £64bn more goods than we sell to them.

Sometimes I really wonder what remainers are scared of, they've been brainwashed by project fear.
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I dint think the major EU nations 'cant stand us'. I don't think that's true.
 
arminisgod said:
King Arthur's mate. Albion rules the waves
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Umm... Arthurian legend has its roots in Celtic folklore in south-west England (Arthur as a Celtic warlord at a time when Anglo-Saxon 'immigration' was making things pretty difficult for the natives (who had come over from Gaul in the first place)). This gives the Irish (and Welsh, and Scots, and Cornish, and Bretons) more of a claim to Arthur than most Englishmen likely have. Indeed it was writing of a Welshman that popularised the figure.

In addition, a lot of what we now recognise as Arthurian myth (Lancelot for one) was added by the French 100 years later.

Go Albion.
 
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