Current Affairs EU In or Out

[roydo]

Please can you explain further? I am missing something here.

I implied that Germany could lose half of their exports to us and we would lose half for arguments sake of ours across the EU which counted for 48% of our total exports. So give or take 25% lost which is 4% of GDP. Not sure where this multiplier comes from.

Shall I do the Sunday market thing? It usually helps.

 

[arminisgod]

His grandstanding may have spooked them, but he surely can't accept that otherwise he'll be branded a coward.

To me they're testing his resolve. Because he clearly doesn't want no deal. So it puts pressure on him to accept which calls his bluff about no deal.

His only option here is to turn it down or he's exposed.

 

[arminisgod]

His grandstanding may have spooked them, but he surely can't accept that otherwise he'll be branded a coward.

To me they're testing his resolve. Because he clearly doesn't want no deal. So it puts pressure on him to accept which calls his bluff about no deal.

His only option here is to turn it down or he's exposed.

Coward? What? Most people want a deal. Just not a bad one

 

[Jebus_lives]

Coward? What? Most people want a deal. Just not a bad one

Would Traitor be more appropriate for leave rhetoric?

 

[arminisgod]

Would Traitor be more appropriate for leave rhetoric?

Remainers have lost the plot.

Almost nobody wants a no deal... But we'd take that instead of a [Poor language removed] deal

 

[Jebus_lives]

You may well be right. My reading of it would be that he could now go into a new negotiation fully aware that the EU do not want a no deal. Not make stupid demands, but enough that all can leave with a deal that saves face, and is actually acceptable to most.

Reckon that would appeal to his ego.

It's a chess game. The EU clearly don't want No Deal they've never threatened it. But their line is they are prepared for it sould it happen.

The UK zealot Brexiters are however clamouring for it and another 'kicking the can' moment will surely not go well.

 

[roydo]

Remainers have lost the plot.

Almost nobody wants a no deal... But we'd take that instead of a [Poor language removed] deal

I think the mood music seems to be that the EU are open to an extension of the deadline, and by doing that, the obvious deduction would be that they realise that everyone wants a deal. The one that was not negotiable appears to be very much so now.

If so, lets see. Maybe Johnson has surprised this observer. Hope he has.

 

[arminisgod]

It's a chess game. The EU clearly don't want No Deal they've never threatened it. But their line is they are prepared for it sould it happen.

The UK zealot Brexiters are however clamouring for it and another 'kicking the can moment will surely not go well.

Who is clamouring for it??? Absolutely nobody has once said they want a no deal no matter what.

Absolutely nobody.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Remainers have lost the plot.

Almost nobody wants a no deal... But we'd take that instead of a [Poor language removed] deal

Remainers have lost the plot.

Almost nobody wants a no deal... But we'd take that instead of a [Poor language removed] deal

When you say 'remainers' do you just mean me? Because I know you leave lot don't like be bundled in with the racists...so perhaps it might be sensible to make the distinction when you refer to remain voters.

 

[arminisgod]

When you say 'remainers' do you just mean me? Because I know you leave lot don't like be bundled in with the racists...so perhaps it might be sensible to make the distinction when you refer to remain voters.

Is remain now a race?

 

[roydo]

The UK zealot Brexiters are however clamouring for it and another 'kicking the can moment will surely not go well.

If a deal is negotiated that meets approval from the HOC, and solves, or at worst, defers the border issue, the lunatic fringe will once again become the irrelevance they were before.

I am by nature optimistic, (rare for a Blue, I know), so at least there seems to be some traction.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Is remain now a race?

No but apparently leave voters are:

the newest form of racism........

“Nearly two in five people who voted to remain in the EU would be upset if their child married a leave supporter, a survey shows.


The YouGov poll of 2,380 people found more than one in 10 (11 per cent) of remainers would describe themselves as "very upset" if their offspring tied the knot with a Brexiteer, while another 28 per cent said they would be "somewhat upset".


Only 11 per cent of leave voters said they would be in any way upset if their child married a pro-EU partner.


The poll also found that 11 per cent of Labour supporters would be "very upset" if their child married a Tory, while just 2 per cent of Conservatives said they would be similarly aggrieved if the positions were reversed.”

Now who are the real racists......

 

[The binman chronicles]

Who is clamouring for it??? Absolutely nobody has once said they want a no deal no matter what.

Absolutely nobody.

Erm @peteblue ?

 

[Jebus_lives]

If a deal is negotiated that meets approval from the HOC, and solves, or at worst, defers the border issue, the lunatic fringe will once again become the irrelevance they were before.

I am by nature optimistic, (rare for a Blue, I know), so at least there seems to be some traction.

I hope so. But it does feel a bit like the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

 

[random]

I am by nature optimistic, (rare for a Blue, I know),

It also helps you develop a thick skin as well mate, especially if you were brought up when our neighbours were winning things