Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

You seem of the misapprehension that the job of the prime minister is to do the bidding of the 100,000 Tory members who voted him in rather than for the country as a whole. That you then bleat on (and on and on) about democracy merely adds to the absurdity.

The PM’s job is to run the country. The PM’s other job, is to deliver on the referendum vote for which 17,400,000 people voted Leave, the 100,000 or whatever merely chose the leader of their party......once again Bruce democracy begins with enacting the vote of the people.......

 

[RichardP]

the newest form of racism........

“Nearly two in five people who voted to remain in the EU would be upset if their child married a leave supporter, a survey shows.


The YouGov poll of 2,380 people found more than one in 10 (11 per cent) of remainers would describe themselves as "very upset" if their offspring tied the knot with a Brexiteer, while another 28 per cent said they would be "somewhat upset".


Only 11 per cent of leave voters said they would be in any way upset if their child married a pro-EU partner.


The poll also found that 11 per cent of Labour supporters would be "very upset" if their child married a Tory, while just 2 per cent of Conservatives said they would be similarly aggrieved if the positions were reversed.”

Now who are the real racists......

What excellent and revealing statistics.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If we had not joined EU we would still have a massive fishing fleet, less unemployment, shipyards producing ships rather than laying idle - and cheaper fish n chips!

Truly excellent trolling. You're here parodying Brexiters aren't you?

 

[Blue 1]

the newest form of racism........

“Nearly two in five people who voted to remain in the EU would be upset if their child married a leave supporter, a survey shows.


The YouGov poll of 2,380 people found more than one in 10 (11 per cent) of remainers would describe themselves as "very upset" if their offspring tied the knot with a Brexiteer, while another 28 per cent said they would be "somewhat upset".


Only 11 per cent of leave voters said they would be in any way upset if their child married a pro-EU partner.


The poll also found that 11 per cent of Labour supporters would be "very upset" if their child married a Tory, while just 2 per cent of Conservatives said they would be similarly aggrieved if the positions were reversed.”

Now who are the real racists......

Racism? Are you having a bloody laugh?

Get a grip.

 

[orchard]

If we had not joined EU we would still have a massive fishing fleet, less unemployment, shipyards producing ships rather than laying idle - and cheaper fish n chips!

Yeah, 'cos when your opinion contradicted by facts, it' s a matter of opinion defined by whether one's 'intelligent' or a 'Momentum' inspired Trotsky wannabe. Gotcha.

 

[RichardP]

The PM’s job is to run the country. The PM’s other job, is to deliver on the referendum vote for which 17,400,000 people voted Leave, the 100,000 or whatever merely chose the leader of their party......once again Bruce democracy begins with enacting the vote of the people.......

Good points again Pete.

How many people voted for the next President of EU? Just over 300.

How many names were on the ballot sheet? Just the one.

Did you get a vote? No, neither did I.

Do Remainers still think EU is democratic?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The PM’s job is to run the country. The PM’s other job, is to deliver on the referendum vote for which 17,400,000 people voted Leave, the 100,000 or whatever merely chose the leader of their party......once again Bruce democracy begins with enacting the vote of the people.......

Which May did. We would leave the EU under the withdrawal agreement she negotiated. The ERG mob that you support then squashed that plan.

 

[peteblue]

Ehud Sheleg has given the Tories at least £1.8 million, and is now their Treasurer. Alexander Termenko (former Defence Ministry man under Yeltsin, and one of those anti-Putin folk who somehow still have all their money and who aren't touched by the Russian state) has given a shade less than £300,000. Lubov Chernukin, the wife of one of Putins former mates (who again still has their money) paid more than £400000 to them for a series of "leaders dinners".

The appointment of people (like Chloe Westley) from the TPA and the other groups based on Tufton Street - about whom almost nothing is known about who funds them - by Johnson, even after one of them (the IEA) was caught on tape offering to change government policy in return for donations, is a clear indicator of what is about to happen.

Just a minute, you said funding for Johnson, now who are these overseas people funding Johnson.....

 

[orchard]

And the EU took great delight in kicking us when we were down rather than helping us rebuild.

Where were the 'EU Funds' that remainers harp on about to protect the UK fishing industry?

Ask Farage, didn't he have a job sorting this, but hardly ever turned up?

 

[peteblue]

I'm not a fan of either to be honest. My politics aren't too far removed from Corbyn, but he's a horrible party leader that has no appeal to Middle England and will never be PM (and that's without getting into his shocking mishandling of the party's attitude to antisemitism). His demanding of leading this 'intervention of the sensible' makes him easy to label as plotting a coup etc.

If I were him I'd be throwing my support behind a compromise candidate on the strict understanding that he gets his much-demanded GE out of it (personally I'd prefer to just revoke, with PV after, but I can't see how a temporary unity govt get either through)

I’m pretty sure that Boris will give Corbyn his GE, I’m not too sure that Corbyn actually wants one at the moment though.....

 

[RichardP]

Yeah, 'cos when your opinion contradicted by facts, it' s a matter of opinion defined by whether one's 'intelligent' or a 'Momentum' inspired Trotsky wannabe. Gotcha.

The only thing you seem to have caught is a firm grasp of the obtuse.

The EU has destroyed the UK fishing fleet. Hell, we are now a net importer of fish and we live on an island!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Good points again Pete.

How many people voted for the next President of EU? Just over 300.

How many names were on the ballot sheet? Just the one.

Did you get a vote? No, neither did I.

Do Remainers still think EU is democratic?

There isn't a president of the European Union. Do you mean the president of the European Commission? The president of the European Council? The president of the European Parliament? It's okay, you can take a few minutes to Google it, or this link might help - https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/presidents_en

 

[peteblue]

we are heading for a no deal brexit that he feels would be hugely detrimental to the U.K. Corbyn has resisted calls for a second referendum despite huge pressure from his party and supporters. Not sure you can be overly critical of him in that regard to be honest.

Corbyn is actively offering a second referendum.....

 

[RichardP]

Ask Farage, didn't he have a job sorting this, but hardly ever turned up?

Now you knowhow silly your answer is don't you.

You want to join the naughty boys in the sin bin?

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Racism? Are you having a bloody laugh?

Get a grip.

In the next episode:

Any Evertonian who wouldn't marry a Kopite is a racist.

You couldn't make this lot up.