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[RichardP]

Right. We voted in constituencies did we? How did Hoey's lot vote then?

Hoey is one example against 90+.

How do you think those 90+ constituencies will vote in a General Election?

My guess is that the brexit party will target those constituencies, win most of them, then form a coalition with the tory party which will have a substantial working majority.

 

[tsubaki]

True, just as the EU has no money but merely recycles members contributions. I am sure the same principle is applied there and it is gratifying to see you criticising policy also practiced by EU.

I'd go back and rethink that one if I were you.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Can you not just read it and use your own intelligence rather than relying on mine.

I wouldn't want to be accused of providing only selective info to you. Have a good read and form your own opinion.

Oh and speaking of not reading...you seen to have not read my question about how many refugees we've taken from the EU. I've asked 3 times but not yet had a response.

 

[RichardP]

I'd go back and rethink that one if I were you.

No thanks. I like it just as it is.

 

[RichardP]

Oh and speaking of not reading...you seen to have not read my question about how many refugees we've taken from the EU. I've asked 3 times but not yet had a response.

When you say 'We' to which particular country are you referring?

The telepathy isn't working too well today, can we try the Queen's English please.

 

[Jebus_lives]

When you say 'We' to which particular country are you referring?

The telepathy isn't working too well today, can we try the Queen's English please.

The UK.

 

[tsubaki]

No thanks. I like it just as it is.

Of course you do. I mean, a government taking income from everyone is exactly the same as a party taking government money to boost its own electoral chances.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

Hoey is one example against 90+.

How do you think those 90+ constituencies will vote in a General Election?

My guess is that the brexit party will target those constituencies, win most of them, then form a coalition with the tory party which will have a substantial working majority.

Not for the first time you are deliberately misunderstanding my words. My point is that we did not vote on a constituency by constituency basis. That is the nature of referendums, which I think should never be used. Imagine having a referendum on the death penalty, for instance. Everyone in Walton Jail (that's in Liverpool) would be off to the gallows in no time.

 

[RichardP]

Not for the first time you are deliberately misunderstanding my words. My point is that we did not vote on a constituency by constituency basis. That is the nature of referendums, which I think should never be used. Imagine having a referendum on the death penalty, for instance. Everyone in Walton Jail (that's in Liverpool) would be off to the gallows in no time.

There is no deliberate misunderstanding as the figures are available by constituency.

I think it therefore fair to ask how you think a Party that campaigned for and had a manifesto of Leave (or at the minimum, vowed to respect the referendum result) and which has now transformed into a Remain party will fare in a General Election, given that 90+ of the constituencies it represents voted leave - many by a large majority.

Do you not think this could cost Labour dearly in a General Election?

You may not like referenda but that is the way we are deciding brexit and the Labour Party about turn on its policy is likely to cost it dear in an election.

 

[Jebus_lives]

There is no deliberate misunderstanding but the figures are available by constituency.

I think it therefore fair to ask how you think a Party that campaigned for and had a manifesto of Leave (or at the minimum, vowed to respect the referendum result) and which has now transformed into a Remain party will fare in a General Election, given that 90+ of the constituencies it represents voted leave - many by a large majority.

Do you not think this could cost Labour dearly in a General Election?

Given the referendum wasn't based around constituencies, it's pretty difficult to say with certainty what the constituency actual voted for.

 

[RichardP]

 

[Jebus_lives]

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Where is your data for that mate? What's it based on?

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

I think that is a bit strong.

He certainly has made mistakes in the past but I believe he has matured and learned from them. He is certainly no Churchill but I do think he is the best option we have for a while.

But only time will tell.

His legacy will be 'Never have so few done so much damage to so many.'

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Why would a government divert extra money to a region that has a deep routed, tribal hatred to their party and always will, no matter what you do? Lets face it, these grants are bribes for votes. And these bribes are better spent in marginal seats. Sad, but that's how it is.

Better stick to getting them from the EU then.

 

[tsubaki]

There is no deliberate misunderstanding but the figures are available by constituency.

I think it therefore fair to ask how you think a Party that campaigned for and had a manifesto of Leave (or at the minimum, vowed to respect the referendum result) and which has now transformed into a Remain party will fare in a General Election, given that 90+ of the constituencies it represents voted leave - many by a large majority.

Do you not think this could cost Labour dearly in a General Election?

There is a deliberate misunderstanding, and that misunderstanding is dividing the country into Leave vs Remain camps without taking any account of anything else.

There are areas - the majority of those 90 seats - that voted Leave largely because they've been devastated economically for the past fifty years. If Labour were still a party of pro-EU, being "pro business" (ie: pro agency work, pro outsourcing etc), pro-"fairness" and basically giving not two figs about their core vote then yes, they'd probably see their vote share go down (as they did in 2001, 2005, 2010 and 2015) and they'd probably lose some of those seats.

The problem Boris has is that Labour are not that party any more, visibly.