Current Affairs EU In or Out

[RichardP]

We do control our own currency.

Not if we Remain in EU we won't.

We do control our own laws.

Really? Ever heard of the ECJ?

We do control our own borders.
Really? Really? You know better than that don't you.

 

[RichardP]

No. Nothing with detail ever does.

Post something worth a detailed response and you might get one. Until then, I respond in kind.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Yes I've heard of the ECJ.
We have the Pound and haven't ever signed up for the Euro - although it might be a good idea post Brexit
And yes, we do control our own borders regardless of how hysterical you might be about it.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Post something worth a detailed response and you might get one. Until then, I respond in kind.

Of course...

How many refugees have we taken from the EU?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Post something worth a detailed response and you might get one. Until then, I respond in kind.

You've been asked for detail numerous times about the benefits of Brexit and have not provided any at all. The usual vacuous nonsense. For a man of such supposed commercial experience it's embarrassing. What is not uncommon however is your lack of awareness over just how ignorant you are. That is sadly all too common in these debates.

 

[spectateur]

Well it has served us pretty well for most of the last 100 years. People only seem to be against it when they lose.

It worked fine when we had a predominantly 2 party system. Modern politics needs a more refined and representative system.

 

[Methuselah]

Absolute nonsense. You seem to be suggesting that countries that use PR aren't truly democratic whereas the opposite is true.

Another example of the a la carte democracy so favoured by Leavers - use whatever version that suits at the time and claim only your interpretation can be correct. It is arrogant rubbish.

Completely puzzled by this response. I haven't suggested that other countries who use PR aren't democratic. That's their choice and in that context its democratic.

'Use whatever version that suits at the time'? We have always used first past the post, it is the way we choose to do it. We have rejected PR in a referendum. Its not MY interpretation, its the will of the country.

 

[spectateur]

and yet 68% of the voting public rejected an alternative to fptp for the UK

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum

Given just one alterative and on a very low turn-out.

 

[Methuselah]

You've been asked for detail numerous times about the benefits of Brexit and have not provided any at all. The usual vacuous nonsense. For a man of such supposed commercial experience it's embarrassing. What is not uncommon however is your lack of awareness over just how ignorant you are. That is sadly all too common in these debates.

Bruce, your post is symptomatic of Remoaners posts. Can't post without an insult. You didn't used to be like that and I always thought you debated sensibly. Sad that you have deteriorated to the same level as others.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Bruce, your post is symptomatic of Remoaners posts. Can't post without an insult. You didn't used to be like that and I always thought you debated sensibly. Sad that you have deteriorated to the same level as others.

Can you answer for @RichardP as to how many refugees we've taken from the EU?

He seems to have gone quiet or doesn't have the detail.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Perfectly appropriate, non insult intended term. One of the biggest problems with the world at the moment is the passive aggressive, poliitically correct liberal tree huggers who are spring loaded to the 'offended' position.

Never has the term 'snowflake' been more apt than on some of the posters here. Their ability to manufacture 'offence' whete non was intended is quite incredible.

One of the biggest problems with the world today is ‘snowflakes’ and treehuggers lol lol lol lol
Aside from global warming (which again requires global partnerships and dialogue) l would say one of the biggest problems with the world at the minute, is that in an increasingly globalised and transient population, people have regressed to tribal politics and nationalism, whilst at the same time showing a distinct lack of empathy or compassion. The ‘I’m alright crowd’, building up the walls and not letting anyone else in.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I don't think the ECJ is part of the EU system. Is it?

I think we should let @RichardP outline his understanding of it before anyone else has the chance to reply.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Bruce, your post is symptomatic of Remoaners posts. Can't post without an insult. You didn't used to be like that and I always thought you debated sensibly. Sad that you have deteriorated to the same level as others.

Also you cannot post with calling someone a Remoaner or Kopite. So id pipe down.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I think we should let @RichardP outline his understanding of it before anyone else has the chance to reply.

Careful mate, he’s been to different countries and has an Irish friend

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

You haven't listened to, or considered, a single word that doesn't fit with your blinkered view have you.

That is what is pathetic.

There we go. A Leaver's lament. We see a lot of this behaviour on here @RichardP. That is what's pathetic. I'm blinkered because I accept the Leave vote? Hmm. I'm blinkered because I explore ways of advancing this whole toxic process instead of saying 'we just need to get out'? Hmm. I'm blinkered because the Brexit I would like to see is not a No Deal Brexit, and therefore is something I think should be very carefully dealt with? Hmm. I think it's you who needs to have a good look at himself. Smug replies don't cut it on this thread @RichardP.