Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Armaghtoffee]

Well, that is where we disagree.

There are other solutions. There is a strong and growing IREXIT movement for starters!

No there isn’t.

You are just making this up to suit your narrative lol

 

[RichardP]

No there isn’t.

You are just making this up to suit your narrative

Did I make this up too?

Irish Freedom Party - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Jebus_lives]

Would you! It was perhaps the lesser of the 2 evils but is a hypothetical question which is therefore irrelevant.

More importantly, neither Remain nor May's deal complied with the Leave decision made by the people so your question has no merit.

May's deal takes us out of Europe, which was exactly the remit of the referendum question.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Did I make this up too?

Irish Freedom Party - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You define that as “strong”?

 

[RichardP]

May's deal takes us out of Europe, which was exactly the remit of the referendum question.

No, it doesn't. It is entirely contingent upon finding a solution to the backstop which is acceptable to both UK and EU. It does not take much intelligence to work out that no solution would ever be acceptable to EU, and UK would then be permanently trapped in the EU Customs Union. So, not acceptable and not free of EU interference in our affairs.

 

[RichardP]

You define that as “strong”?

People in UK were saying the same about the Brexit Party only 18 months ago. So yes, it is strong as it is growing and who knows what influence it will shortly have.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

People in UK were saying the same about the Brexit Party only 18 months ago. So yes, it is strong as it is growing and who knows what influence it will shortly have.

You are making it up as you go along.

250 attended the conference! Their 2 figureheads achieved less than 2% of first preference votes combined.

A strong movement indeed lol

 

[roydo]

People in UK were saying the same about the Brexit Party only 18 months ago. So yes, it is strong as it is growing and who knows what influence it will shortly have.

Brexit party was a rebranding exercise under the cult of Farage. Hence UKIP now polling close to 0%, while BP is circa 20%.

 

[Jebus_lives]

No, it doesn't. It is entirely contingent upon finding a solution to the backstop which is acceptable to both UK and EU. It does not take much intelligence to work out that no solution would ever be acceptable to EU, and UK would then be permanently trapped in the EU Customs Union. So, not acceptable and not free of EU interference in our affairs.

The backstop was a request of the UK and apparently it's easily solved with technology so why the worry?

The question was whether we leave the European Union and with the Withdrawal Agreement we would, no matter how many backtracks and ifs and buts you make.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

People in UK were saying the same about the Brexit Party only 18 months ago. So yes, it is strong as it is growing and who knows what influence it will shortly have.

Hahahahahahaha, as if Ireland shares the same scepticism and outright animosity towards the EU that that is inbred in the UK mindset.

"Strong and growing" lol .....don't make me laugh, there's about 12 of them.

This post proves you haven't a clue what you are talking about Nigel.

 

[RichardP]

Brexit party was a rebranding exercise under the cult of Farage. Hence UKIP now polling close to 0%, while BP is circa 20%.

True to a point but a lot of other party MPs have also joined the Brexit Party. They were very succesful in the recent EU elections.

 

[Aberblue]

People in UK were saying the same about the Brexit Party only 18 months ago. So yes, it is strong as it is growing and who knows what influence it will shortly have.

If you read the Wikipedia article it's clear that this " party" needs to up its game to be considered a laughing stock.

 

[RichardP]

You are making it up as you go along.

250 attended the conference! Their 2 figureheads achieved less than 2% of first preference votes combined.

A strong movement indeed lol

It's not where you start, its where you finish. The level of EU scepticism in UK that you refer to wasn't there in anything like the same intensity only 10 years ago. Wait until Ireland has the same immigration, law and order problems that we have in UK in a few years time and you will be thinking again.

 

[RichardP]

The backstop was a request of the UK and apparently it's easily solved with technology so why the worry?

The question was whether we leave the European Union and with the Withdrawal Agreement we would, no matter how many backtracks and ifs and buts you make.

You need to remember that anything requested by UK was actually requested by May the Remainer. There was never any negotiations in earnest as both EU and May wanted to overturn both democracy and the referendum result. In short, it was a contrived stitch up which BoJo is now putting right.

The WA as it stands would leave us shackled to EU rules and regulations, with no time limit whatsoever and potentially, forever. That is not leaving, no matter how much you try to call it so.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

It's not where you start, its where you finish. The level of EU scepticism in UK that you refer to wasn't there in anything like the same intensity only 10 years ago. Wait until Ireland has the same immigration, law and order problems that we have in UK in a few years time and you will be thinking again.

So you agree that it isn’t a strong movement?