Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

Jesus Pete..... you don’t actually believe that do you ?

Them’s the facts unfortunately......

 

[Methuselah]

Well people in employment is at a record high. Project fear told us we would have mass unemployment. Remainers can't actually believe what the EU tells them because it never tells them anything.

 

[roydo]

Them’s the facts unfortunately......

But is that cos we havnt left yet, might leave soon, are all high quality decent wage jobs, or loads of zero contract/gig jobs?

You dont know. But you post such nonsense as if its a vindication of your position.

FTSE fell today. Brexit? Trump? China? Woodford selling out?

Dunno.

 

[roydo]

Well people in employment is at a record high. Project fear told us we would have mass unemployment. Remainers can't actually believe what the EU tells them because it never tells them anything.

We havnt left.

And lol at a brexiteer accusing remainers of believing stuff!

 

[Ruairi77]

Them’s the facts unfortunately......

Not sure if it's quite a million but unemployment has been low in the UK, part of a continuing trend since 2012.
Since the referendum the economy has contracted and the pound has devalued.
If the global economy actually does slow down over the next 12 to 18 months, all the ingredients are in place for a catastrophic blow to UK employment figures.
It could be fine and the UK could use it's independent status to drive a Singapore type economy but all the signs are pointing in a different direction.

 

[peteblue]

But is that cos we havnt left yet, might leave soon, are all high quality decent wage jobs, or loads of zero contract/gig jobs?

You dont know. But you post such nonsense as if its a vindication of your position.

FTSE fell today. Brexit? Trump? China? Woodford selling out?

Dunno.

Hold on. I just posted a comment that is reported in all the news outlets that the U.K. has created a million jobs since the vote. I haven’t a clue what the jobs are, where they are, who filled them or whether they were part time or full time, what the salaries were or the demographics of who filled them. I didn’t draw conclusions, make specific points or try to push an agenda. How could I. So saying that I post ‘such nonsense’ is a really cheap shot.

And the FTSE fell today, so could you enlighten us on what that actually means, bearing in mind it goes up and down every single day. What effect is Trump having upon the FTSE ? Do you know or is this some ‘nonsense’ to vindicate your position. What about China ? Do you have the foggiest what is going on over there ? I take your comments but it works both ways. If you wish to accuse me of nonsense for merely repeating national news then at least back it up......

 

[Kurt.]

Jesus Pete..... you don’t actually believe that do you ?

No mate..... that’s the fanciful numbers they want you to believe.... the jobs they claim to have created are mainly part time or zero hour contracts at minimum wage which people in receipt of universal credit are being forced to take or they face sanctions on their already meagre benefits..... it really is akin to modern day slavery..... theme the facts Pete.... hidden under the rhetoric they like to preach.

 

[Xizor]

Project fear told us we would have mass unemployment.

Blows my mind that Leavers simultaneously complain we have left yet and seem to think we already have!

 

[Ruairi77]

Hold on. I just posted a comment that is reported in all the news outlets that the U.K. has created a million jobs since the vote. I haven’t a clue what the jobs are, where they are, who filled them or whether they were part time or full time, what the salaries were or the demographics of who filled them. I didn’t draw conclusions, make specific points or try to push an agenda. How could I. So saying that I post ‘such nonsense’ is a really cheap shot.

You posted in response to a poster who was concerned that he might lose his job as it's EU trade related. If you havent a clue what jobs were created, where they were created, who filled them, whether they were full time or what the salaries were, why bother posting, was it just to taunt him?
Or were you drawing a conclusion, making a specific point to push an agenda.
How could you? I dunno but you've been pushing a nonsense filled agenda relentlessly for over 3 years. If noting else, I admire your dedication.

 

[peteblue]

Not sure if it's quite a million but unemployment has been low in the UK, part of a continuing trend since 2012.
Since the referendum the economy has contracted and the pound has devalued.
If the global economy actually does slow down over the next 12 to 18 months, all the ingredients are in place for a catastrophic blow to UK employment figures.
It could be fine and the UK could use it's independent status to drive a Singapore type economy but all the signs are pointing in a different direction.

But that isn’t right is it. A reduced currency rate aids our exports and as we are setting ourselves up specifically to export then this is good. All the signs are pointing in the direction of the Eu suffering a slowdown, driven by Germany, and the U.K. can take advantage of getting rid of the EU anchor, a flexible workforce, flexible economy and a lowering of the valuation of the pound.......

 

[peteblue]

You posted in response to a poster who was concerned that he might lose his job as it's EU trade related. If you havent a clue what jobs were created, where they were created, who filled them, whether they were full time or what the salaries were, why bother posting, was it just to taunt him?
Or were you drawing a conclusion, making a specific point to push an agenda.
How could you? I dunno but you've been pushing a nonsense filled agenda relentlessly for over 3 years. If noting else, I admire your dedication.

I’m not having that. My post, as I always try, was I believe factual, not nonsense.....and if I wanted to taunt a poster, which I very rarely do, then I really would have taunted him......

 

[Ruairi77]

But that isn’t right is it. A reduced currency rate aids our exports and as we are setting ourselves up specifically to export then this is good. All the signs are pointing in the direction of the Eu suffering a slowdown, driven by Germany, and the U.K. can take advantage of getting rid of the EU anchor, a flexible workforce, flexible economy and a lowering of the valuation of the pound.......

yea, you could well be right but you should be concerned that the pound is being devalued due to lack of confidence in the UK economy and while you can capitalize on cheaper exports, you will have to deal with inflation as the cost of living rises due to the cost of imports. All of a sudden it becomes tougher to be competitive on the global stage as salaries will be devalued while the cost of living increases.
It strikes me as foolhardy to be relying on a German recession for your post Brexit economic miracle.

 

[Ruairi77]

@peteblue and while we're discussing economic facts,
The speaker of the house today stated that congress would not ratify any US/UK trade deal if the GFA is jeopardized.
Makes Johnson's job trickier.

 

[peteblue]

@peteblue and while we're discussing economic facts,
The speaker of the house today stated that congress would not ratify any US/UK trade deal if the GFA is jeopardized.
Makes Johnson's job trickier.

Excellent. The U.K. has no intention of undermining the GFA, only the EU and Varadkar want to do that....

 

[peteblue]

yea, you could well be right but you should be concerned that the pound is being devalued due to lack of confidence in the UK economy and while you can capitalize on cheaper exports, you will have to deal with inflation as the cost of living rises due to the cost of imports. All of a sudden it becomes tougher to be competitive on the global stage as salaries will be devalued while the cost of living increases.
It strikes me as foolhardy to be relying on a German recession for your post Brexit economic miracle.

I’m not relying on anything from Europe, good or bad. I want to see us just do what we have always been good at, trading with the rest of the world.....