Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

Au contraire, he’s picked a team to deliver, it will put the spotlight on any awkward squad Tories to dare not back him and will almost certainly threaten them with a general election and removal from a cushy job. I think he’s done exactly what is needed, bold, swift and ruthless.....

To deliver what? Two of his cabinet were sacked for breaches of national security, his political adviser broke the law and was held in contempt of parliament, and a large number of Tories explicitly ruled out working with the man. Indeed, so short was he of people to work with that he had to give his brother two jobs.

 

[peteblue]

To deliver what? Two of his cabinet were sacked for breaches of national security, his political adviser broke the law and was held in contempt of parliament, and a large number of Tories explicitly ruled out working with the man. Indeed, so short was he of people to work with that he had to give his brother two jobs.

To deliver our exit from the EU.....it’s going to happen.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Of course it’s his call. Any Tory that votes no confidence in its own government will have the whip removed, thrown out of the party and replaced for the GE. It’s one thing playing silly buggers and putting all your remainer medals on show, it’s quite another to bring down your own government and get away with it...May completely lost control of her party, Boris will knock them back into line......

I sense you'd quite like it if he rode topless on a horse Pete. There was some research published last year looking at the economic performance of countries with 'strongman' leaders, and they do way worse than normal (this was conducted over the last 150 years so a good sample). Your instinct for a big man to protect you from the mean winds of change is blinding you from what your head knows to be true.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

To deliver our exit from the EU.....it’s going to happen.....

A German pinched your sun lounger didn't he? It's unhealthy this hatred you have for Europeans.

 

[orchard]

I sense you'd quite like it if he rode topless on a horse Pete. There was some research published last year looking at the economic performance of countries with 'strongman' leaders, and they do way worse than normal (this was conducted over the last 150 years so a good sample). Your instinct for a big man to protect you from the mean winds of change is blinding you from what your head knows to be true.

*sniggers in TX Pete

 

[peteblue]

I sense you'd quite like it if he rode topless on a horse Pete. There was some research published last year looking at the economic performance of countries with 'strongman' leaders, and they do way worse than normal (this was conducted over the last 150 years so a good sample). Your instinct for a big man to protect you from the mean winds of change is blinding you from what your head knows to be true.

Again Bruce it’s the opposite, I absolutely welcome the winds of change, and once Brexit is done Boris will become a reforming PM......

 

[The binman chronicles]

Au contraire, he’s picked a team to deliver

May completely lost control of her party, Boris will knock them back into line......

I've already stated on record that for the good of the country I don't wish ill on any PM and government, but I think you are putting way too much blind faith in the abilities of Boris and the Tories.

They barely have a majority, there are numerous MPs within the party that will not go for a no deal Brexit and he is therefore reliant on other parties MPs help just as before. He isn't going to get a new deal from Europe unless he ties us into taking EU laws and that wouldn't pass through government as what is the point in losing a seat at the table and being dictated to. Hardly taking back control is it? Just as the same as a no deal can't as it would almost certainly spell the end of the UK. No way the Queen will shut down parliament if there is a risk of that.

Just to add to the mix the man at the top is a divisive figure and prone to lying which will further get up the backs of MPs. Nothing here screams of stability and strong government. You can bang your fists on the table and demand I want this or that, but if others don't go with that (his backbench, the DUP, other parties MPs and the EU leaders) then he will find himself in the exact same position as Theresa May.

In fact I think the only way this works is that they have done all of this to try and re-energise the Tory grass roots. The promise of more police, better hospitals, tax cuts and saying that the well off elderly will not lose their homes to pay for social care to boost the chances of winning the remain Tory vote, whilst also destroying the Brexit Party by being the leavers party of choice.

If they can win an GE with a large majority then he can push that they have been given a mandate to press on with a no deal Brexit. Until then the parliamentary outlook weather forecast is more paralysis with a good chance of pigs flying before anything gets sorted.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

So he thinks there's only "a very remote chance" that the EU won't give into his bullying and renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement.

Either the bloke has completely lost his marbles, or he embarked on a strategy to rack up anti-EU sentiment even further in an attempt to put the blame on them for being intransigent when he tries to take the UK out of the EU with no deal in a few months time. It won't wash.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Again Bruce it’s the opposite, I absolutely welcome the winds of change, and once Brexit is done Boris will become a reforming PM......

Kept telling you it's going to need another election of any chance for Brexit now, and the signs are the tide is ebbing on Brexit, oh dear!

 

[Alan Whittle]

Boris has played Gove like a fiddle. No one believes there is any chance of a deal and when no deal happens and is a catastrophe Gove (as Minister responsible for planning for it) gets the blame. Priceless.

 

[Jebus_lives]

To deliver our exit from the EU.....it’s going to happen.....

It will only happen with the withdrawal agreement. Boris does not want and will not deliver a No Deal Brexit - unless he catastrophically messes things up.

It will be Brexit in name only. The man is only interested in power, nothing else.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Again Bruce it’s the opposite, I absolutely welcome the winds of change, and once Brexit is done Boris will become a reforming PM......

Provided those winds of change aren't blowing from the EU I presume?

 

[Jebus_lives]

A general election will not be his call. It will follow a vote of no confidence by the HOC. In either way you're indicating that a lot of tories would lose their seats.?

I think the precise opposite. He wants a general election as it distracts from the Brexit discussion. He's not interested in Brexit, he's interested in power.

 

[johnblue23]

So he thinks there's only "a very remote chance" that the EU won't give into his bullying and renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement.

Either the bloke has completely lost his marbles, or he embarked on a strategy to rack up anti-EU sentiment even further in an attempt to put the blame on them for being intransigent when he tries to take the UK out of the EU with no deal in a few months time. It won't wash.

With added British chauvinism no matter the consequences. Deflect and blame.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So he thinks there's only "a very remote chance" that the EU won't give into his bullying and renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement.

Either the bloke has completely lost his marbles, or he embarked on a strategy to rack up anti-EU sentiment even further in an attempt to put the blame on them for being intransigent when he tries to take the UK out of the EU with no deal in a few months time. It won't wash.

It will start with a charm offensive, then he will quickly change tact and ramp up the rhetoric of them as blocking our optimism, along with the negative remainers...

That will be his GE narrative. It leaves the Brexit Party nowhere to go other than to back him and he can be seen as the one aiming to deliver Brexit, knowing that Labour and the Lib Dems will not unite in opposition.