Hi @St. Domingo, here is where we discuss Brexit
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zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
I, for one, am looking forward to another recession. I have €15.43 in a wallet from holiday - this time next year I will own Kent.
www.bbc.co.uk
No-deal Brexit could cause £30bn economic hit, watchdog says
The Office for Budget Responsibility says borrowing could surge if the UK leaves the EU without a deal.
www.bbc.co.uk
Charlie Sweet
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So with news now from official independent experts legally obliged to be honest (office for budget responsibility) saying economy will tank in a no deal scenario (and that's not even a worst case scenario) and long term growth is impaired what do we think the Leavers response will be?!
@peteblue I asked you for some clear positive reasons for choosing Brexit now with current knowledge and have heard nothing....
@peteblue I asked you for some clear positive reasons for choosing Brexit now with current knowledge and have heard nothing....
Don't see why it will make the smallest bit of difference to leavers. Through this whole stupid saga we have repeatedly been told by those damn experts that the economy will be hit by any form of brexit, let alone a hard one. Has barely even moved the needle.
They'll just double down on project fear and carry on.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The current knowledge from the OBR is as we understood at the beginning of this, there will be a short term hit over an 18 month period. The economy is not projected to ‘tank’, growth will be curtailed for 18 months by about 2%, unlike the doomsday scenario’s put out by the Treasury. My reasons for leaving the EU remain exactly as I have stated and restated many times in this thread. I’ve always stated there will be a short term hit, as indeed there will also be for the EU, but any major change always carries a cost in the short term. I think Leavers all understand this and always have.....
You lost me right there, Peter.
Even if the "hit" was only about an "18 month duration" hundreds of thousands of the most financially vulnerable families will carry the burden on behalf of the well heeled Brexiter politicians and their retired or soon to be retired comfortably situated middle class cheerleaders.
That you and your ilk can glibly state such balderdash without one moment's concern for those most at risk is nowt short of disgraceful.
Charlie Sweet
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Contracting by 2% minimum (and more if its Boris) as opposed to growing by 2% is not a minor issue. Plus long term projections are also impaired so it doesn't just bounce back. The impact is permanent. As it states in the report.
I have honestly missed you saying what the wider benefits are.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
That is not the case though. An effect upon growth, I.e. treading water, will not hit hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people. This is the usual scare remark. We’re still going through the effects of the previous financially illiterate Labour government, through ‘austerity’, and we are still growing and doing well. It may well slow down the employment prospects for EU job seekers in the U.K. for a period. Our vulnerable will still be looked after, our workers and their companies will develop and grow outside of this political union, the U.K., its businesses and its people will do just fine.....
Gwladysstreetlad
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If nothing else cones from this entire fiasco I hope we reform parliament. Our antiquated system is an utter shambles. The "debates" that happen in both houses would be an embarrassment to a school's debating society. It's nothing but a old boys network full of self-satsified, smug little cretins.
Recognise the reality of Northern Ireland.
Stop maintaining the fiction that it is just the same as northern England
A NI only Backstop is the easy and sensible way out of this quagmire.
Brexiters in England get what they want...
the majority of people in NI get what they want.
Gwladysstreetlad
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What would that solve though mate? We'd likely end up with a similar situation parliament wise to what we have now and be no further along. It would probably be a horrendously low turn out too.
orchard
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Ha, not just him mate, it's been going on for yonks...
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