Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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What? I’m not ‘represented’ by anyone thanks very much. There was a referendum and we were asked a simple question. Nobody was forced to vote. My missus abstained because she didn’t know which way to vote, which I thought was fair enough. If you didn’t feel strongly either way, abstain. And just as you fail to understand a different point of view to your own, let me run some figures by you........

The EU has 44,000 officials and 11,000 employees that cost over €8billion a year – 4,000 of those officials earn more than €290,000 a year.

Now if you are ok with such an outrageous waste of public money, fine, but I’m not. I too fail to understand why anyone would think these costs are acceptable. I love Europe, but the EU is not Europe. To me, the whole thing is a Ponzi scheme of the highest order.

These costs? Those 55000 are the entire staff of the EU, paid for by national governments to conduct the business of the EU - negotiating, translating, managing and running a supra-national entity. It is a pretty bizarre statement to make - though I am not blaming you, as you've clearly just repeated what you have read elsewhere - that people paid to to a job is some form of Ponzi scheme.

Though if you do want to take a look at an actual Ponzi scheme, then I recommend the UK between 1997 and 2020 - adding £1.5 trillion to the national debt, adding nearly £100 billion in outstanding student debt, passing on nearly £200 billion in PFI debt to the next generation. How will they ever top that, you ask? Well, they are about to voluntarily leave the world's biggest free trade area!
 
Same Mps Ken Clarke and co...... and the CBI.......
New research by Vote Leave reveals that the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) received nearly £1 million from the European Commission between 2009 and 2015 – and that the EU is the CBI's single largest source of public sector funds, which total more than £7 million.
copy and paste lol
 
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These costs? Those 55000 are the entire staff of the EU, paid for by national governments to conduct the business of the EU - negotiating, translating, managing and running a supra-national entity. It is a pretty bizarre statement to make - though I am not blaming you, as you've clearly just repeated what you have read elsewhere - that people paid to to a job is some form of Ponzi scheme.

Though if you do want to take a look at an actual Ponzi scheme, then I recommend the UK between 1997 and 2020 - adding £1.5 trillion to the national debt, adding nearly £100 billion in outstanding student debt, passing on nearly £200 billion in PFI debt to the next generation. How will they ever top that, you ask? Well, they are about to voluntarily leave the world's biggest free trade area!
So did all those figures you quoted just come to you in your sleep? If so, that’s impressive. Or did you source it from somewhere else? You know, like I did?
 
Because its like saying a 12 year old is older than a 10 year old. A totally vacuous point. Hey, China sell more to the Channel Islands than the Channel Islands sell to them. Who wins there?

But carry on.The EU will bend their knee cos Boris and Nige and Anne say they will.
Roydo, your analogies get weirder and weirder.
 
So did all those figures you quoted just come to you in your sleep? If so, that’s impressive. Or did you source it from somewhere else? You know, like I did?

A variety of sources, but the difference being that I thought about it before repeating it.
 
Well that was a first. Just listened to John Major on the World Service (I'm on nightshift) and he made tremendous sense for a Tory. He made the reasonable point that the 52% were at no stage voting for a no deal Brexit, therefore it's not an option. Apologies if this interview is old news to those of you in the UK.
 
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