Current Affairs EU In or Out

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    Votes: 688 67.9%
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    Votes: 325 32.1%

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At what point did we have the upper hand?

1065 ?
In the Brexit negotiations you mean?. Never.

We handed them the initiative the moment we evoked article 50 without an agreed plan that had enough support to be carried through Parliament.

The fact that we followed that up with a second rate negotiating team of career politicians, rather than a team of European experts in law, commerce and industry just made matters 10 times worse. We grossly underestimated the opposition from the start.
 
In the Brexit negotiations you mean?. Never.

We handed them the initiative the moment we evoked article 50 without an agreed plan that had enough support to be carried through Parliament.

The fact that we followed that up with a second rate negotiating team of career politicians, rather than a team of European experts in law, commerce and industry just made matters 10 times worse. We grossly underestimated the opposition from the start.


A very English disease, Barney....underestimating Johnny Furrener :)
 
Brown could have called an election the minute he took power and would have likely won quite handily, but he didn't and looked illegitimate to many from that point onward. That was his biggest mistake

And the recession that came about had a lot to do with his own economic policies and lack of regulation on the banks. He made his own bed
Although it wasn't him who deregulated to be fair.
 
It is unbelievable that some people swallow this nonsense that the EU is “bullying” plucky little John Bull.
Different sides of the fence Khal. Simple as that really.

For instance I, for the life of me, can't see why Remain supporters insist on giving the EU a completely free rein on things. They are untouchable and can do no wrong.

Seriously, criticising the EU in this thread is worse than praising the RS in the footy forum.lol
 
May accepted. Practically her whole negotiation team walked away as a result. To me that means that May caved in to EU demands.

How do you view the EUs insistence on not discussing the future relationship until withdrawal agreement signed? This could all have been sorted by now had they allowed simultaneous discussions.

IMO, they played hard ball from the outset and their press conferences were always very bullish, anti conciliation and aggressive. I don't believe brow beating is too far off the mark.

You mean the terms of Article 50 that the UK will have helped to draft whilst a member of the EU?
 
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