Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Joey66]

just getting people warmed up bruce

urm its today Frank you have 2 minutes to vote.........

 

[Barnfred 55]

We'll have to agree to disagree on the definition of brow beating and whether the EU were or not.
I'm also not sure who would be more qualified to negotiate on the part of the UK than the democratically elected PM.

We're on different sides so we'll see things differently.

As regards May, I suspect she'll go down in history as the worst PM ever, and rightly so.

 

[Frang]

urm its today Frank you have 2 minutes to vote.........

I've already voted my friend

I changed my mind thanks to @Bruce Wayne googling copy and pastes

I voted to remain at past minute

Oh

Hang on

 

[Tubey]

We're on different sides so we'll see things differently.

As regards May, I suspect she'll go down in history as the worst PM ever, and rightly so.

That'll forever be Cameron in my eyes.

 

[Wizard]

Lots of talk that May will announce her resignation tomorrow ahead of officially stepping down on June 10th.

Must surely trigger a General Election

 

[sbbefc]

The Tories would lose the next election, so they'll do everything they can to prevent it from happening. The'll have their leadership contest and that will be that.

 

[Barnfred 55]

If you agree of your own free will to accept something ,and then find yourself in a position where you you can't fulfill your side of the agreement i do not think that constitutes being brow beaten

May accepted. Practically her whole negotiation team walked away as a result. To me that means that May caved in to EU demands.

How do you view the EUs insistence on not discussing the future relationship until withdrawal agreement signed? This could all have been sorted by now had they allowed simultaneous discussions.

IMO, they played hard ball from the outset and their press conferences were always very bullish, anti conciliation and aggressive. I don't believe brow beating is too far off the mark.

 

[Barnfred 55]

That'll forever be Cameron in my eyes.

If the question was who was the biggest coward to be PM he'd win hands down.

He did get us into this mess though so you could be right.

 

[Milkman]

If the question was who was the biggest coward to be PM he'd win hands down.

He did get us into this mess though so you could be right.

And that's before you even count all the misery he inflicted by austerity.

 

[abelard]

That'll forever be Cameron in my eyes.

Austerity + Brexit is an impeccable combo, and probably the next fifty years of British politics' original sin.

That said, May's even more austerity + even more shambolic Brexitry + innumerable and pointless Home Office cruelties in a failed bid to woo provincial racists is a not unimpressive follow-up, to be sure.

On the other hand, if she does manage to bring down the entire Tory Party with her, it would represent arguably the greatest positive contribution to British society since the NHS.

Just as some find it hard to believe that they've voted Lib Dem again ten years on, I'd have found it tough to take if you'd told me in 2009 that just a decade later, I'd be seriously considering Thatcher as only the third worst modern PM.

 

[Hibbo]

In Australia, we are calling for a Quexit (Queensland to become its own country). The rest of Australia has such poor standards, and we are so much superior we think we should be our own country.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

That'll forever be Cameron in my eyes.

I dunno, Brown was pretty crap too

So crap that he managed to lose to Cameron in the first place

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

On the other hand, if she does manage to bring down the entire Tory Party with her, it would represent arguably the greatest positive contribution to British society since the NHS.

Those people won't go away, they'll just form a new party

 

[Tubey]

I dunno, Brown was pretty crap too

So crap that he managed to lose to Cameron in the first place

Nah he had the 2008 recession to deal with, plus fatigue of Labour for 12 years. He had no chance in retrospect.

Whereas Cameron had every chance and blew it spectacularly by bending over for Farage out of sheer irrational panic.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Nah he had the 2008 recession to deal with, plus fatigue of Labour for 12 years. He had no chance in retrospect.

Whereas Cameron had every chance and blew it spectacularly by bending over for Farage out of sheer irrational panic.

Brown could have called an election the minute he took power and would have likely won quite handily, but he didn't and looked illegitimate to many from that point onward. That was his biggest mistake

And the recession that came about had a lot to do with his own economic policies and lack of regulation on the banks. He made his own bed