Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Oh stop backtracking for god sake.

You posted a comment saying leave voters blamed everybody but themselves for Brexit not being pushed through. When I pulled you on it you came up with the buyer beware statement, which can only mean we all bought the lies being told in the leave campaign. That old chestnut.

Yes it is tedious. And the most annoying thing about it is the assumption that we all believed what we were being told and that it made us vote the way we did.
I'm not talking about all. I don't think all leave voters are the same. You can lump them all together if you like, but in doing so, you're missing the point.
 
Did I say they were all in the leaflet? no but what was in if we voted Out we would leave also the leaflet stated we would leave the customs union and the single market......

No, it didn't? It's only 16 pages long ffs, with barely 100 words on each page :confused: You can search through the document all you like, but there isn't a single mention of the customs union, let alone stating that we will leave it.
 
He hasnt a clue what he's talking about.

I've said it before, but I'm sure he just types random words and hopes they form a sentence.

I wouldn't mind, but he goes on (and on, and on) about Googling as though it's a bad thing, yet can't spend a few minutes to read the document to check his facts are correct. The link was right there in the post he quoted.
 
I wouldn't mind, but he goes on (and on, and on) about Googling as though it's a bad thing, yet can't spend a few minutes to read the document to check his facts are correct. The link was right there in the post he quoted.
Not interested in facts, forming his own arguments or evidence though. Same with @BigBlueNose who just copied and pasted an article from Brexitcentral when challenged.

I asked him to present evidence and his response was to ask me to go and research/Google it myself..

Well if he can't be arsed to explain his decision, why should anyone listen to it?
 
Not interested in facts, forming his own arguments or evidence though. Same with @BigBlueNose who just copied and pasted an article from Brexitcentral when challenged.

I asked him to present evidence and his response was to ask me to go and research/Google it myself..

Well if he can't be arsed to explain his decision, why should anyone listen to it?

And yet great umbrage is taken when people suggest that perhaps making such a momentous decision on such poorly understood logic is a daft idea. Barnfred has said previously that it was emotions rather than logic that dictated a lot of the Brexit vote, which I can understand, but this isn't a decision that should be taken by emotion when it runs counter to all the evidence available.
 
And yet great umbrage is taken when people suggest that perhaps making such a momentous decision on such poorly understood logic is a daft idea. Barnfred has said previously that it was emotions rather than logic that dictated a lot of the Brexit vote, which I can understand, but this isn't a decision that should be taken by emotion when it runs counter to all the evidence available.
Yes but @Barnfred and @peteblue can clearly articulate why they voted as they did in their own words and at least provide an alternative view.
 
Do you really want the counter to me saying you can't articulate your own opinion to be you linking a BBC video?

The first few minutes are why Cameron thinks Britain was better off in the EU. He then goes on to say how leaving is full of risk, and that leave campaigners can only offer vague promises of a better future, before returning to the benefits of the current situation, including enjoying the benefits of the EU but without being in the Euro, the Shengen zone or having any part of any EU army etc. He closes by saying whatever the decision, 'he' will do his best to honour it.

So it's basically four minutes of why Cameron thinks staying in would be better, but zero minutes of why Joe thinks we'd be better off out. You kinda hope Joe's on a windup to be honest.
 
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The first few minutes are why Cameron thinks Britain was better off in the EU. He then goes on to say how leaving is full of risk, and that leave campaigners can only off vague promises of a better future, before returning to the benefits of the current situation, including enjoying the benefits of the EU but without being in the Euro, the Shengen zone or having any part of any EU army etc. He closes by saying whatever the decision, 'he' will do his best to honour it.

So it's basically four minutes of why Cameron thinks staying in would be better, but zero minutes of why Joe thinks we'd be better off out. You kinda hope Joe's on a windup to be honest.
I don't think he is unfortunately.
 
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