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    Votes: 688 67.9%
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    Votes: 325 32.1%

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This is pretty much on the money and a good concise write-up.

https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/why-did-hitler-hate-jews/

Bit off topic though!
Interesting thought, ;)
Russia on the subject is good reading, before during and after the war , likes of the night of murder the poets,
its view on the setting up of a jewish state, and its actions
supplying arms ect while at the same time getting rid of jewish commitees ect at home.
Stalin was said by many to be very anti semetic , not while he was alive if you had any sense.
 
Where’s your pub Pete? Would like to come in for a pint if I’m in your neck of the woods

You can't miss it really

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What's crazy is that that guy has a lot of influence over a lot of people due to his online personality. As Sargon of Akkad he presents pseudo-intellectual arguments that don't bare any scrutiny whatsoever, but help legitimise the fringe views of people want confirmation bias of their terrible agendas.

The likes of him are very, very dangerous, because they're increasingly being gifted platforms to spread their message, where in decades gone by they would have been marginalised and laughed at.

We're circling the drain at the moment - extremism and war are the next steps.
 
What's crazy is that that guy has a lot of influence over a lot of people due to his online personality. As Sargon of Akkad he presents pseudo-intellectual arguments that don't bare any scrutiny whatsoever, but help legitimise the fringe views of people want confirmation bias of their terrible agendas.

The likes of him are very, very dangerous, because they're increasingly being gifted platforms to spread their message, where in decades gone by they would have been marginalised and laughed at.

We're circling the drain at the moment - extremism and war are the next steps.
Joined by the Nazi Pug guy and Infowars own Paul Joseph Watson...

 
The flag that would be a nuisance if it was the Pride flag, the ISIS flag or any other bloody flag. It's spoiling someone else's view, it's not supposed to be there, based on the covenant he signed when he purchased the house.

The lads a snowflake of the highest order ‘We are becoming weak and spineless. Who are they to tell me not to fly the flag?’ if they were that weak and spineless they would of let a bully boy who thinks because he went on an extended scouts jamboree to Iraq that he somehow deserves to be able to do what he wants. Actually laughable.
The extended jamboree in which 180 British servicemen and women lost their lives you mean. It's your post that would actually be laughable if it wasn't so disrespectful.

That apart, if it's a restrictive covenant in the deeds he has to take the flag down. If he wants to fly the Union Jack move to somewhere that doesn't restrict it.
 
Democracy hasn’t died. People voted to leave fair
enough. But the version of leave wasn’t defined. You can bang on about 17.4m but that means nothing as they weren’t all voting for the same thing. So let’s have another vote based on what the real options are. The hard line leavers are scared of that because they worry they won’t win. Surely true democracy is letting the country vote again given we now have a proper idea of what we are voting for.
I think the biggest issue with a second referendum is the question that is to be asked. The only question that can be asked and be truly democratic is a straight leave or stay like the first referendum. Anything else would disengage large numbers of the electorate so would not be democratic.

I accept that's exactly what you guys want as it would absolutely guarantee a win for remain, but it isn't democracy.
 
I think there have to be criteria met in June, which will allow the extension to 31 October. It could well happen, but if it does, it needs the right approach.

It is amazing how little compromise there has been within the UK (although partly due to the negotiating position of the EU).

I recall a legal quote, although I forget who it was that said it, that 'compromise should leave both parties being like they've eaten a plate of worms'. But I would have expected much greater maturity from parliament, both as individuals and as an entity.
Can you really see the 2 sides (Tories and Labour I mean) coming together? The problem, as I see it, is that you have a parliament that is 70% remain, and they can now sniff victory. Even if May and Corbyn come up with a plan, I'm now convinced that parliament will bring an amendment to the bill insisting on a confirmatory peoples vote, and the government won't have the majority to stop this. Once this happens it will be a vote on the deal v remain, which will totally alienate maybe 70% or more of the leave supporters. It will be a landslide for Remain.

If May and Corbyn don't come up with a plan, I think parliament will once more take over proceedings and will go one of 3 options before 30 June, whatever they can get a majority on. They would be revoke article 50, a second referendum or a general election. In any event, I don't believe at this stage that the EU will allow a no deal scenario so they will allow the 31 Oct extension even if we still have no plan by the end of June.

No I stick by my prediction that Brexit will not happen, not this year anyway. And the only way it will happen in the next few years is if parliament manage to acquire a good majority of Brexit supporting MPs at the next general election. Can you see that happening?
 
I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Call it populism if you wish, but too me it’s just heavily caveatted nazism.

For the record I do not believe this of all those who voted leave only a select few.
Fair enough mate. Personally I don't think you can just strip out the violence and sadism and still consider somebody a Nazi. It has to be the full package for me. The evilness is part and parcel of what defined them.
 
Austrian branch
Main article: Rothschild banking family of Austria

Grüneburgschlößchen, Frankfurt, 1845, one of the Rothschilds' many German garden-mansions. This particular estate was destroyed in an Allied bombing raid, 1944.
In Vienna, Salomon Mayer Rothschild established a bank in the 1820s and the Austrian family had vast wealth and position.[41] The crash of 1929 brought problems, and Baron Louis von Rothschild attempted to shore up the Creditanstalt, Austria's largest bank, to prevent its collapse. Nevertheless, during the Second World War they had to surrender their bank to the Nazis and flee the country. Their Rothschild palaces, a collection of vast palaces in Vienna built and owned by the family, were confiscated, plundered and destroyed by the Nazis. The palaces were famous for their sheer size and for their huge collections of paintings, armour, tapestries and statues (some of which were restored to the Rothschilds by the Austrian government in 1999). All family members escaped the Holocaust, some of them moving to the United States, and returning to Europe only after the war. In 1999, the government of Austria agreed to return to the Rothschild family some 250 art treasures looted by the Nazis and absorbed into state museums after the war.[42]
hitler was Austrian by birth.
As I said I am not 100% sure but his contempt for jews was to a degree based on their wealth and influence in the banking industry.
To be honest mate I think this was just a side line of the bigger issue, which was that Hitler hated the Jews to the extent where he considered them less than human. The fact that many of them were wealthy and successful, at a time when Germany was hit more than any other western country by the great depression, just made it easier for him to turn ordinary Germans against them.

It wasn't just the Jews by the way, he hated a lot of people and was totally ruthless with anybody that didn't agree with him. I'm sure fear was one of the main factors that got so many ordinary Germans behind the Nazis. Plus it's hard to oppose something when all opposition is banned!!
 
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