Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Jebus_lives]

Do you know what you're looking for? You don't give me any confidence.

I saw one post where you talked about the 3rd Reich, one about corporations and Nazism having never gone away and the post you made to @roydo about 'corooratocracy'.

Not seeing anything on how the EU are intending to rule as a Facist state.

You make a rather tenuous point about a belief that the EU has the potential to be a Facist state and an army being mooted in some quarters, but that's very far removed from actual reality of a desire and ability to become one.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I think Mogg, and Johnson also, play buffoonery as a screen, given a real opportunity at power I think their true selves would be revealed, so yes.
As for Hopkins, do you really have to ask? Vile, horrible and vicious.

So you think Rees-Mogg, Johnson and Hopkins, if they ever got in power, are all capable of ordering and carrying out the cold blooded murder of a whole race of people, for no other reason than they didn't like them. And that is just the headline atrocity.

I'm no fan of the ERG nor some no mark media columnist who nobody had heard of 5 years ago. But they aren't Nazis mate.

 

[Old Blue 2]

We did do concentration camps before them.

Was it not the case that the camps set up during the Boer War, to which you allude above, were set up to take the civilian population away from the fighting, to protect them, not to exterminate them? I may be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but I believe that was their purpose.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

So you think Rees-Mogg, Johnson and Hopkins, if they ever got in power, are all capable of ordering and carrying out the cold blooded murder of a whole race of people, for no other reason than they didn't like them. And that is just the headline atrocity.

I'm no fan of the ERG nor some no mark media columnist who nobody had heard of 5 years ago. But they aren't Nazis mate.

As a side note, I’ve actually met and talked to a real old school nazi.

Even in old age he was still full of arrogant swagger and in total belief that he was above and beyond anyone else.

Being a nazi does not mean you will likely kill, mutilate, torture and dominate Jews, Muslims, the weak, infirm, mentally ill or other untermenschen. It does mean however that you see yourself as physically and mentally superior to these other classes of people. They view themselves as a class or race apart from what they see as lesser or sub class of humans.

And they are exactly the traits shown by JRM, Hopkins, Robinson and other assorted nutters.

So yeah I would call these people nazis

 

[magicjuan]

So you think Rees-Mogg, Johnson and Hopkins, if they ever got in power, are all capable of ordering and carrying out the cold blooded murder of a whole race of people, for no other reason than they didn't like them. And that is just the headline atrocity.

I'm no fan of the ERG nor some no mark media columnist who nobody had heard of 5 years ago. But they aren't Nazis mate.

By your rationale every nazi started off as a murderous thug, that just isn't the case. The nazi party developed into a killing machine, it attracted the worst of their society and evolved.

 

[Joey66]

As a side note, I’ve actually met and talked to a real old school nazi.

Even in old age he was still full of arrogant swagger and in total belief that he was above and beyond anyone else.

Being a nazi does not mean you will likely kill, mutilate, torture and dominate Jews, Muslims, the weak, infirm, mentally ill or other untermenschen. It does mean however that you see yourself as physically and mentally superior to these other class of people. They view themselves as a class or race apart from what they see as lesser or sub class of humans.

And they are exactly the traits shown by JRM, Hopkins, Robinson and other assorted nutters.

So yeah I would call these people nazis

So at that rate - the alleged anti Semites in the Labour Party are Nazis ...
This is supposed to be an EU in or out thread - it's going OTT........
The MPs aren't worried they've cleared off for their Easter break........

 

[dead_soft]

So you think Rees-Mogg, Johnson and Hopkins, if they ever got in power, are all capable of ordering and carrying out the cold blooded murder of a whole race of people, for no other reason than they didn't like them. And that is just the headline atrocity.

I'm no fan of the ERG nor some no mark media columnist who nobody had heard of 5 years ago. But they aren't Nazis mate.

That's not the only reason was it? Creating an 'other' is a way to divide and rule and that is something the British have always been very good at. The Jewish people weren't killed for no other reason than that some guys in the Nazi Party didn't like them, they were killed because they became an easy target for European bigotry, that then lead to them being blamed for everything that was wrong with the country.
For someone so painfully arguing that only Nazis can be Nazis, you know absolutely nothing of what you talk about.

 

[dead_soft]

So at that rate - the alleged anti Semites in the Labour Party are Nazis ...
This is supposed to be an EU in or out thread - it's going OTT........
The MPs aren't worried they've cleared off for their Easter break........

How do you so consistently fail to comprehend basic points?
What about the quote you posted led to your comments?

 

[magicjuan]

I saw one post where you talked about the 3rd Reich, one about corporations and Nazism having never gone away and the post you made to @roydo about 'corooratocracy'.

Not seeing anything on how the EU are intending to rule as a Facist state.

You make a rather tenuous point about a belief that the EU has the potential to be a Facist state and an army being mooted in some quarters, but that's very far removed from actual reality of a desire and ability to become one.

So a typo has you confused. Bless. So what is your actual point? You asked who 'their' referred to, I responded and said it was documented. You've gone on a merry ego dance for what reason? You disagree? Great
So what?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Was it not the case that the camps set up during the Boer War, to which you allude above, were set up to take the civilian population away from the fighting, to protect them, not to exterminate them? I may be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but I believe that was their purpose.

They started out to house the civilian population, but the British practice moved to one of internment. Mostly badly managed and overwhelmed with the volume of civilians in them.

The British had originally said it was voluntary, but then changed the narrative to it being a military necessity.

 

[Joey66]

How do you so consistently fail to comprehend basic points?
What about the quote you posted led to your comments?

This thread is going way off topic in a nasty way and you don't help as others do as well .....typical response by you by the way.......

 

[Barnfred 55]

As a side note, I’ve actually met and talked to a real old school nazi.

Even in old age he was still full of arrogant swagger and in total belief that he was above and beyond anyone else.

Being a nazi does not mean you will likely kill, mutilate, torture and dominate Jews, Muslims, the weak, infirm, mentally ill or other untermenschen. It does mean however that you see yourself as physically and mentally superior to these other classes of people. They view themselves as a class or race apart from what they see as lesser or sub class of humans.

And they are exactly the traits shown by JRM, Hopkins, Robinson and other assorted nutters.

So yeah I would call these people nazis

Are you talking about Nazis or fascists.

I'm talking about the Nazis who are specifically the people who were members of the German Nationalist Socialist party in the 1920s, 30s and 40s.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

So at that rate - the alleged anti Semites in the Labour Party are Nazis ...
This is supposed to be an EU in or out thread - it's going OTT........
The MPs aren't worried they've cleared off for their Easter break........

I would say Joe that anti-semitism is but one trait of nazism. The ideology is far deeper and more complex.

 

[dead_soft]

This thread is going way off topic in a nasty way and you don't help as others do as well .....typical response by you by the way.......

What do you mean by typical response? Asking questions hoping for an answer?

 

[Joey66]

I would say Joe that anti-semitism is but one trait of nazism. The ideology is far deeper and more complex.

Perhaps this is an EU in out thread - not the world at war - that's on the History channel .......