Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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roydo said:
Lost on me that.

Just find it odd that @peteblue wants to dump the EU cos its crap, and replace it with the super duper UK, which, apparently, he also thinks are crap.

A new one on me that.
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Yeah but he spent years dealing with the EU. You didn’t.

I don’t think he did either.
But erm can’t back down now, Leave means Leave.
 
ijjysmith said:
Question for you Pete as nobody has answered this even though this will be the third time.

Did you really think this government would be able to deliver the Brexit you wanted when you voted?
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Yes I did. But never in my wildest dreams did I believe that Remainers, including the civil service, would behave this badly and undermine the government position, time and again, and side with the EU........
 
Lord Howarth of Newport, a Labour peer, has just given a superb speech in the HoL regarding Brexit. The debates in the Lords are far more grown up than the nonsense taking place in the HoC........
 
peteblue said:
Yes I did. But never in my wildest dreams did I believe that Remainers, including the civil service, would behave this badly and undermine the government position, time and again, and side with the EU........
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Pete I just think you misjudged both the strength of the U.K. position and the resolve of the EU to protect the interests of a member state. Ireland and the GFA was always going to be the fulcrum of how the U.K. exited the Union.

The EU were never going to force the issue onto a member state to facilitate the exit of another. Besides that, it is a legal and constitutional nightmare that surely Westminster had no intention of reintroducing to the fore. It just never factored into their thinking.

Don’t blame the Remainers or the civil servants Pete. Theresa May had agreed a deal to resolve this but then bowed to the DUP. Blame Tory party politics if you insist on assigning blame.
 
Armaghtoffee said:
Pete I just think you misjudged both the strength of the U.K. position and the resolve of the EU to protect the interests of a member state. Ireland and the GFA was always going to be the fulcrum of how the U.K. exited the Union.

The EU were never going to force the issue onto a member state to facilitate the exit of another. Besides that, it is a legal and constitutional nightmare that surely Westminster had no intention of reintroducing to the fore. It just never factored into their thinking.

Don’t blame the Remainers or the civil servants Pete. Theresa May had agreed a deal to resolve this but then bowed to the DUP. Blame Tory party politics if you insist on assigning blame.
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I think it was a bit of both really, the UK were never getting a good deal regardless if they had component government. The fact the government were and are middle barrel caliber politicians after a generation of politicians resigned after the referendum has seen low caliber generations of politicians coining to power who under different circumstances never would, trying and failing to live up to the task on behalf of the Uk.

In David Moyes words, the UK brought a knife to a gun fight.

Hence we are here....
 
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