Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

I reckon May will go for practically anything that doesn't include a confirmatory vote. If Corbyn agrees, his time as Labour leader will be very limited. I can't call which way he'll go, but it's another fascinating bi product of this whole Brexit saga.

I normally absolutely hate politics but it's hard to take your eyes of this.

May just wants ‘her deal’ to be accepted. The problem is that it’s a crap deal and she cannot admit that no deal beats all the work she did over the last few years.....

 

[sbbefc]

Corbyn has been put on the spot. No messing about, he now has to effectively declare his upcoming manifesto promise regarding Brexit, which will not play well with his voters.....

I honestly don't know how both parties are going to play it. May has her deal but its universally disliked, so does she offer a no deal? I cant see that. Buty, actually, didn't she promise to step down before the next election?

 

[edge]

No, we are in control, but our leaders are making a complete arse of it.....

They have just handed the EU control Pete we have to ask them for an extension if no deal, so they will dictate the terms from now on, well that's if they ever did not in reality with this shower we have had leading the notations .
They(most of parliament) want to stay no matter what it costs.
How vast swathes of the electorate can ever have any trust in any of this shower i will never know. your vote just gives you illusion of democracy is in play nothing more,
this sorry episode has proved it if nothing else.

 

[Jebus_lives]

But May's cabinet is full of remainers who want to stop brexit. So I really doubt it matters too much what the PR man thinks. Doubt he's negotiating in Brussels. The lad Boles literally resigned the whip cause he lost a democratic commons vote he was behind. Childish.

It matters quite a lot if the media pressure influences direction of MPs and the public.

 

[Barnfred 55]

No, we are in control, but our leaders are making a complete arse of it.....

Whichever way we play this now we need EU approval to go ahead. If you think that is us being in control Pete you are off your head. The only decision we can make without approval of the EU is to revoke article 50.

 

[Khalekan]

Corbyn has been put on the spot. No messing about, he now has to effectively declare his upcoming manifesto promise regarding Brexit, which will not play well with his voters.....

No he doesn’t, Peter.

Labour did not win the Election ergo the 2017 manifesto is good for nowt beyond wrapping your fish n’ chips in.

Labour’s current position on Brexit was laid out in the party conference last year.

Sorry, pal

 

[Barnfred 55]

May just wants ‘her deal’ to be accepted. The problem is that it’s a crap deal and she cannot admit that no deal beats all the work she did over the last few years.....

May is in there bending over, She'll accept customs union and probably even single market to get a deal through. Corbyn though will continue to play party politics I reckon. I'd be surprised if they come up with an agreement.

 

[Khalekan]

No, we are in control, but our leaders are making a complete arse of it.....

Then we aren’t “in control”.

 

[Goat]

Then we aren’t “in control”.

 

[Jebus_lives]

But May's cabinet is full of remainers who want to stop brexit. So I really doubt it matters too much what the PR man thinks. Doubt he's negotiating in Brussels. The lad Boles literally resigned the whip cause he lost a democratic commons vote he was behind. Childish.

Also:

Is the cabinet full of Remainers? It wasn't last time I checked. It seems to be a line rolled out from Cameron's cabinet that actually doesn't gold true anymore but people like to throw out as fact.

 

[Jebus_lives]

They have just handed the EU control Pete we have to ask them for an extension if no deal, so they will dictate the terms from now on, well that's if they ever did not in reality with this shower we have had leading the notations .
They(most of parliament) want to stay no matter what it costs.
How vast swathes of the electorate can ever have any trust in any of this shower i will never know. your vote just gives you illusion of democracy is in play nothing more,
this sorry episode has proved it if nothing else.

• Revoke Article 50 to avoid no-deal — 184 yes, 293 no

 

[Jebus_lives]

No he doesn’t, Peter.

Labour did not win the Election ergo the 2017 manifesto is good for nowt beyond wrapping your fish n’ chips in.

Labour’s current position on Brexit was laid out in the party conference last year.

Sorry, pal

Since when did anyone keep manifesto promises.

 

[Jebus_lives]

That's the aim though mate and has been for 2 years or more. The worse the deal on the table the better it is for them.

The fact that probably 90% or more of those that voted to leave are being disengaged from the second referendum doesn't matter. As you say, places like Zimbabwe and Venezuela have shown more democracy.

Good grief. Hyperbole much?

 

[Khalekan]

Since when did anyone keep manifesto promises.

Peter seems to think manifesto promises are sacrosanct

 

[dandydan]

It's a shortened version of Richard Spencer's "The Alternative Right" originally used by right wing extremists on 4chan.

It's used by either controlled opposition such as Richard Spencer or people out to earn a few quid like Milo. And the hacker known as 4chan never uses the term.