Current Affairs EU In or Out
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To try and force through a second referendum where the only options are to leave with a customs union, or to remain, would be the most undemocratic thing to happen in modern British politics.
But May's cabinet is full of remainers who want to stop brexit. So I really doubt it matters too much what the PR man thinks. Doubt he's negotiating in Brussels. The lad Boles literally resigned the whip cause he lost a democratic commons vote he was behind. Childish.
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That's the aim though mate and has been for 2 years or more. The worse the deal on the table the better it is for them.
The fact that probably 90% or more of those that voted to leave are being disengaged from the second referendum doesn't matter. As you say, places like Zimbabwe and Venezuela have shown more democracy.
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It's about 18 months to late to play the blame game, she really shoukd have reached out after the election, May and her government lost any political legitimacy in creating a solely Conservative Brexit after the election. May and the ERG own this mess. And Brexit in the heat of an election campaign will fall down the order, Social Care NHS Universal Credit Police Education will grab the electorate attention, just like 2017.
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Looking increasingly like a general election. Assuming Mr Macron and co are agreeable of course. No guarantee there.
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You could well be right mate. The 53% of Labour constituencies that voted to leave may disagree with you. EU willing, a long extension to article 50 is now looking likely and I can see a general election rather than a peoples vote being the outcome. So I guess we won't have long to wait to find out.
peteblue
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Lads, while it has been humorous reading the last dozen pages, can we give Joey a break, accept that Jebus didn’t really mean any offence, agree that Bruce has kept his cool, and that May is either a brilliant politician or the worst PM to stand on the planet......
peteblue
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Yeah that’s what I want, Macron and co agreeing that we should have a GE.......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Corbyn has been put on the spot. No messing about, he now has to effectively declare his upcoming manifesto promise regarding Brexit, which will not play well with his voters.....
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Macron could very easily say "non" to an extension, especially one that stops us taking part in the EU elections. That could lead to your favoured no deal Pete, despite all Ms Coopers efforts today.
That's the point I was making.
The sad undeniable fact is that we are no longer in control of anything. The EU is.
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I reckon May will go for practically anything that doesn't include a confirmatory vote. If Corbyn agrees, his time as Labour leader will be very limited. I can't call which way he'll go, but it's another fascinating bi product of this whole Brexit saga.
I normally absolutely hate politics but it's hard to take your eyes of this.
peteblue
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No, we are in control, but our leaders are making a complete arse of it.....
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