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Ha it's used by the ton, know where near the horticultural or agricultural usage ......
I was in Horticulture over 40 years I doubt if I used 50 kg in my career.......
We were offered a Canada plus deal from the Off....
She will go soon and a proper negotiator will take over....
Yes and that’s not a free trade deal it’s a watered down version of a free trade deal
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The mood in this thread very much mirrors the mood in Parliament today. Both sides are slagging each other off in here, and in parliament all most MPs are doing is laying blame, instead of trying to come up with some plan, acceptable cross party, to move forward with.
Bercow has to take some responsibility for this. His insistence that Mays deal can not be brought before Parliament again has resulted in the ridiculous motion being brought today. A motion, incidentally, that prevents any amendments being tabled that could be considered conciliatory because it doesn't allow discussions on the future relationship. Such as that tendered by Lisa Nandy, or the Customs Union option that did quite well in indicative votes.
I'm sure nobody needs reminding that today is the last day that acceptance of the withdrawal agreement can happen. So after today, the three options on the table are leave with no deal on 12 April, revoke article 50 and request a long extension from the EU.
In my opinion anybody who believe leaving with no deal will not cause a lot of harm to our economy, and risk to jobs, has their heads in the sand. I don't think it will be the absolute disaster that loads on here are predicting, but try telling that to the unlucky sods who lose their jobs.
But likewise, anybody who believes that revoking article 50 will solve everything is equally deluded. If I'm not mistaken the turnout of the electorate in the referendum was the highest ever, and over half of them were, for whatever reason, unhappy being members of the EU. That will not have changed and if anything their resolve will have been hardened not weakened. They will continue to fight their cause and that fight will begin with the European elections in May.
The EU have said that any request for a longer extension made before April 12th has to be accompanied by a detailed plan forward that carries a majority in the house. Good luck on that. The other issue is that it only takes one of the 27 to veto the extension to put a spanner in the works. So there is a real risk that we could leave on 1 April with no deal, despite parliament, and most likely the vast majority of the country, being against this. Even if the EU grant an extension, lets be in no doubt that it will come with conditions and at significant cost (financially). And with it comes another 2 years of uncertainty, will we won't we, which is one of the biggest issues business owners have when deciding whether or not to invest.
I have genuine fears that staying in the EU or becoming involved in a lengthy extension will open the doors to far right infiltration of mainstream politics. God knows where that could lead. Plus a lengthy extension will undoubtedly result in Parliament, for the next 2 years, being so wound up with Brexit that other, much more important issues, get ignored or, at best, temporarily shelved.
At a time when we should be putting differences and blame to one side, and coming together for the good of the country, most people are as divided as ever and red lines still rule the day. Nowhere near enough people are prepared to compromise and, whichever side you are on, I can't see this ending well.
Bercow has to take some responsibility for this. His insistence that Mays deal can not be brought before Parliament again has resulted in the ridiculous motion being brought today. A motion, incidentally, that prevents any amendments being tabled that could be considered conciliatory because it doesn't allow discussions on the future relationship. Such as that tendered by Lisa Nandy, or the Customs Union option that did quite well in indicative votes.
I'm sure nobody needs reminding that today is the last day that acceptance of the withdrawal agreement can happen. So after today, the three options on the table are leave with no deal on 12 April, revoke article 50 and request a long extension from the EU.
In my opinion anybody who believe leaving with no deal will not cause a lot of harm to our economy, and risk to jobs, has their heads in the sand. I don't think it will be the absolute disaster that loads on here are predicting, but try telling that to the unlucky sods who lose their jobs.
But likewise, anybody who believes that revoking article 50 will solve everything is equally deluded. If I'm not mistaken the turnout of the electorate in the referendum was the highest ever, and over half of them were, for whatever reason, unhappy being members of the EU. That will not have changed and if anything their resolve will have been hardened not weakened. They will continue to fight their cause and that fight will begin with the European elections in May.
The EU have said that any request for a longer extension made before April 12th has to be accompanied by a detailed plan forward that carries a majority in the house. Good luck on that. The other issue is that it only takes one of the 27 to veto the extension to put a spanner in the works. So there is a real risk that we could leave on 1 April with no deal, despite parliament, and most likely the vast majority of the country, being against this. Even if the EU grant an extension, lets be in no doubt that it will come with conditions and at significant cost (financially). And with it comes another 2 years of uncertainty, will we won't we, which is one of the biggest issues business owners have when deciding whether or not to invest.
I have genuine fears that staying in the EU or becoming involved in a lengthy extension will open the doors to far right infiltration of mainstream politics. God knows where that could lead. Plus a lengthy extension will undoubtedly result in Parliament, for the next 2 years, being so wound up with Brexit that other, much more important issues, get ignored or, at best, temporarily shelved.
At a time when we should be putting differences and blame to one side, and coming together for the good of the country, most people are as divided as ever and red lines still rule the day. Nowhere near enough people are prepared to compromise and, whichever side you are on, I can't see this ending well.
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If May loses this vote then she quits tonight, she'd have to, wouldn't she?
Whilst we were in our Opium Dens in NY completely oblivious to it all.Good times Brother,Good times.
Well why are you arsed?
Nobody's been slagging each other off in here today.
I'm not even sure she would.
Brilliant!British smack for British people
It got unnecessary banned by the EU......
WAKEY WAKEY......
you were, with the NI backstop, which you negotiated.
You got screwed by the DUP.
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