Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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It's a complete and utter waste of time.

The referdum was held. The Leave vote won.

Now some planks are signing a petition because they don't like the result? I'm also pretty certain that people from all over the world can add to the petition, too. lol

What a load of tripe.

The funny thing is there is also a leave means leave on-line petition in circulation that I believe currently has a mere 350K signatures on it.

Then factor in poor old Nigel's march for brexit, supported by a measly couple of hundred scruffs. Wait till the weekend, when there will be well over 1.5 million marching in London in favour of a second referendum. Mock and sneer all you like - but both examples quite clearly demonstrate the mood of the british public.

The Govt have failed to deliver Brexit, there is no cross party unity or will in parliament to deliver an alternative plan (there is even no internal party unity, tory or labour)

Have a second referendum and revoke article 50.
 
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Pertaining to the 'wow' thing @Bruce Wayne it's interesting to note that in an early sample from leave voters, iirc, eighty something voted that negative effects are acceptable as a consequence, but this dropped to around 50pc if the same sample experienced those effe ts themselves.
 
Of course something can be overturned, after it has actually been implemented. I have no problem whatsoever with those wanting to rejoin the EU having a vote to do so, after we have actually left and operated outside of the EU for a decade or so.......

I can see the point your trying to make pete but given the context of the post you replied in its a bit flawed isn’t it ? in that if it outlawed homosexuality but it was opposed and dragged on in Parliament you’d be opposed with the rights of others fighting against its implementation before it actually became law ? I know it’s false equivalency but I’m answering in the context of the point you answered.

As you hopefully know I’ve never been an advocate of a second ref or people’s vote but as time passes on it could be 5 years from the vote before we see an actual Brexit and by then I think we’ll have nearly 5m new registered voters . It’s surely a reasonable point for some to argue they feel disenfranchised. The only time I think the argument for a people’s vote/second ref becomes more compelling is when we face a no deal and Parliament perhaps suggests other options over the head of the government . We could then be looking at an EEA style deal on the table then I’m sure even the likes of you would be wanting to challenge it .

I seriously have no clue and I’m sure I’m rambling because it’s chaotic
 
If we are denied leaving the Eu, as we voted for, as the politicians promised they would deliver, Farage and whatever political group he sets up will be the largest political party after the next GE......

I’m prepared to offer you any bet you like that he won’t be , within reason I’ll wager you any sum you like whatever happens that after a GE farages Brexit party will not be the largest . Disregarding EU elections for a host of reasons that you’re more than aware of they’ve never even registered a tremor on a political scale GE wise and this would be a shock of totally seismic proportions if he managed to pass every other party in the HOC.
 
We sign that leave document and it's a binding treaty to leave not s future trade deal - you are talking bubbles - oh the EU blinked last night at the thought of NO Deal being a valid option - no way they stated would we be allowed an extension unless we had something new on the table so they have put a short delay knowing Mays deal will be voted down again.......

What document Joey?? You mean the Withdrawal Agreement which is UK Bill.

Google what a treaty means Joey, it may help you understand whats going on. And thanks for clarification on the trade deal, i actually told you this
 
Correct, but we then wouldn't have this sub-forum either.
That's true enough.

I just think linking on line polls is taking it to a another level and if the forum starts going down that route where does it stop. If this was linking a vote in favour of Brexit, I'd be making this same post by the way. My point isn't about the subject matter, it's about the action itself.

If the forum owners are happy to allow it, fair enough.
 
Pertaining to the 'wow' thing @Bruce Wayne it's interesting to note that in an early sample from leave voters, iirc, eighty something voted that negative effects are acceptable as a consequence, but this dropped to around 50pc if the same sample experienced those effe ts themselves.

It does make you wonder if the leave vote isn't largely comprised of retirees for whom their life is largely insulated from any disruption, and those for whom life couldn't really get much harder so what the heck.
 
That's true enough.

I just think linking on line polls is taking it to a another level and if the forum starts going down that route where does it stop. If this was linking a vote in favour of Brexit, I'd be making this same post by the way. My point isn't about the subject matter, it's about the action itself.

If the forum owners are happy to allow it, fair enough.

We're just abiding by the will of the GOT people, for whom 65% want to remain so we're doing democracy, taking back control and something or other.
 
What document Joey?? You mean the Withdrawal Agreement which is UK Bill.

Google what a treaty means Joey, it may help you understand whats going on. And thanks for clarification on the trade deal, i actually told you this
The EU never put a word in the leave documents that no majority in the UK will vote for.....
 
Chris, I'm trying to understand the backstop a bit more. This involves the mainland UK being a member of the Customs Union, but NI will have to be a member of the single market in addition to the customs union. Why is this?

I think this is right:

If in 2020 (after the transitional period) we don't have a future Trade Deal the backstop is activated.

To prevent a hard boarder NI need to be directly aligned with the EU rules to protect their consumers. Agri-food products could then freely move between NI & Southern Ireland. IIRC products like food are not subject to free movement under a customs union and will still require additional checks; however, the UK government has stated that we will accept anything produced in the EU due to their high standard.

I think Turkey is a member of the Customs Union but not the Single Market. Their agri-food products are subject to controls as with any other 3rd country.

Thats my basic take on it. But i'm only focused on one sector
 
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