Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Time limit the backstop and this is all sorted. The reason they won't agree is because, despite what they say, the EU want to keep us in it long term, because it weakens us a competitor.

Paranoid nonsense. The EU have gone out of their way to facilitate an orderly Brexit. It is Westminster that has thwarted all attempts for the UK to leave amicably.

The reason the EU won't agree to a time limit is because it would make the backstop pointless.

 

[peteblue]

The living embodiment of:

I would argue that this is the Remainer picture. The Leavers would just get out of the burning room......

 

[COYBL25]

Brexiteers in social media are like those lost forgotten Japanese soldiers that were found decades after their empire had surrendered, still believing they were winning the war. Tonight's vote has seemingly for now got the ERG and DUP to sign up to May's deal, most likely we'll see at meaningful vote 3 next week. So it's now May's deal, the dreams of a hard Brexit are over, at best for Brexit it's a soft squidgy hotel California leave. Or a hotel California extension to Article 50. Brexit summary, vasline for the vassle state.

I think you`re going have to explain a lot of that for the benefit of @Joey66

You have to appreciate he stopped listening to music after Vera Lynn died.

 

[peteblue]

Paranoid nonsense. The EU have gone out of their way to facilitate an orderly Brexit. It is Westminster that has thwarted all attempts for the UK to leave amicably.

The reason the EU won't agree to a time limit is because it would make the backstop pointless.

And because you want to show who is the boss......

 

[Joey66]

I think you`re going have to explain a lot of that for the benefit of @Joey66

You have to appreciate he stopped listening to music after Vera Lynn died.

Joe Walsh played some of the lead gutair on Hotel California cheeky sod lol

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

You don’t like being embarrassed do you......shame really......

Pete, you've had another shocker here. Calling the backstop arrangement a minor matter is simply wrong, as was your recent contention that France supplied Exocets to the Argentinians during the Falklands conflict. If I made embarrassing remarks like those two I'd apologise, as I have previously on this thread. Your most recent post makes you look stupid mate. Give your head a wobble......

 

[kenada_blue]

I would argue that this is the Remainer picture. The Leavers would just get out of the burning room......

And let the building burn down rather than put it out

 

[Jebus_lives]

But as both main parties voted to enact article 50, and both stood on a manifesto of enabling the leaving of the EU, it would be political suicide to push for revoking article 50, which they all voted for.......

Yes, but the Labour party lost the election, so it's perfectly legitimate for them to change position - not that I think they will.

At this stage, if parliament don't want a No Deal and it's pushed through, is expect another no confidence vote, if that was successful then a GE to change the parliamentary arithmetic.

Or...May pushes her WA through again - which I think will also fail again.

Can't see parliament letting a no deal happen.

 

[tim cahill]

A Referendum is much clearer for domestic concerns but as the basis for international negotiations it creates unrealistic expectations.

It’s like voting for your country to win the World Cup and then complaining that the ‘will of the people’ isn’t carried out if they don’t.

The other European countries have their own will.

The outcome of the negotiations was always going to be different to what people voted for.

Completely agree. Cameron has a lot to answer for.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So if you vote to Remain does that mean:-

I vote to remain within the EU providing that
A) we do not have the same level of youthunemployment as Spain
B) we do not have a lower GDP growth than most of the EU
C) we do not get dragged into a war with Russia over the expansionist ideology of Brussels
D) They didn’t know what they were voting for.....

Details don't matter...Remain means Remain!

 

[kenada_blue]

Completely agree. Cameron has a lot to answer for.

I don't think he does. He campaigned to remain. Lost. Reassigned.

I do think he definitely saw what was coming around the corner.

 

[peteblue]

Yes, but the Labour party lost the election, so it's perfectly legitimate for them to change position - not that I think they will.

At this stage, if parliament don't want a No Deal and it's pushed through, is expect another no confidence vote, if that was successful then a GE to change the parliamentary arithmetic.

Or...May pushes her WA through again - which I think will also fail again.

Can't see parliament letting a no deal happen.

How is it perfectly legitimate to change position. Each individual was elected based on what they told their constituents they believed in or would do. Is it just lies then......

 

[longers]

I think you will also find that Remainers had doubts and would now vote leave......

Im sure there are some but id imagine more would switch to remain given the absolute trainwreck of the past two years.

 

[peteblue]

And let the building burn down rather than put it out

With 27 others and a bureaucracy turning off the water and throwing more petrol on the flames, then yes......

 

[COYBL25]

Joe Walsh played some of the lead gutair on Hotel California cheeky sod lol

Just checking you`re still paying attention