Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Ruairi77]

There's no going back to Brussels. This is it.

It'll be a defeat (despite all the curent piping up of some on the flaky fringes of opposition to it) of about 90-110 votes.

They would be hard core leavers and never agree any other amendment even if one were possible.

so it'll likely be a defeat,
then there'll be a vote on avoiding a hard brexit which will pass
then what happens?
There's a GE where all the campaigning is done along the lines of 'remain' or 'no deal brexit' as anyone who opts to run on a compromise ticket probably wont get elected and party politics doesn't seem to matter any more.
Grim, which ever way it plays out.
Edit, just read Edges post about parliament having to dissolve in the case of a GE.

 

[dwightschrute]

There surely has to be a no confidence vote immediately following, she's 'leading' a zombie government that are completely stuck in the mud

Interesting Charles Walker a senior tory saying there needs to be a general election...

 

[Joey66]

HOC may vote no deal out which is not statute legal law, HOC may vote to extend article 50 - the EU may say no leaving a no deal Brexit more likely........

 

[brigadier]

Biggest bunch of bluffers in Britain, all under one roof, the Europeans must be laughing at the state of this country, parliament stinks of weakness and greed.

 

[Ruairi77]

I dunno, listening to it now, I think she's doing quite well. She's calling it like she sees it and simply pointing out the pitfalls of not passing the deal.

 

[Ruairi77]

that, said the house of commons is an absolute joke full of cheeky chappys chuckling and chorteling from their sedentary positions

 

[Barnfred 55]

so it'll likely be a defeat,
then there'll be a vote on avoiding a hard brexit which will pass
then what happens?
There's a GE where all the campaigning is done along the lines of 'remain' or 'no deal brexit' as anyone who opts to run on a compromise ticket probably wont get elected and party politics doesn't seem to matter any more.
Grim, which ever way it plays out.
Edit, just read Edges post about parliament having to dissolve in the case of a GE.

Yeah but I think they will get an agreement from the EU for an extension before they go for a GE. The problem, as I said in an earlier post, is if the EU say no to an extension. I don't think this will happen personally as I don't think the EU would be that reckless.

 

[Anders_Limpar]

Yeah but I think they will get an agreement from the EU for an extension before they go for a GE. The problem, as I said in an earlier post, is if the EU say no to an extension. I don't think this will happen personally as I don't think the EU would be that reckless.

The key is the date to that extension - the EU have said end of May max (as this when European parliament elections start) - if it's longer than that then UK will have to put up and vote for MEPs (provided EU agree, which I think they would).

Basically if we want anything meaningful to happen (2nd ref or GE) then we will have to be involved in European elections.

The only way to get round this is to pass May's deal on third reading, have no deal or try to get a Norway type deal through parliament quickly.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I thought he did a decent job tbh.....

He did. But he was trying to suggest what he has secured actually matters in terms of the fundamental Withdrawal Agreement. Sadly it doesn't, the EU are unmoved.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Yeah but I think they will get an agreement from the EU for an extension before they go for a GE. The problem, as I said in an earlier post, is if the EU say no to an extension. I don't think this will happen personally as I don't think the EU would be that reckless.

I think the EU will agree to an extension, they will want to demonstrate 'good faith'.

 

[Ruairi77]

Yeah but I think they will get an agreement from the EU for an extension before they go for a GE. The problem, as I said in an earlier post, is if the EU say no to an extension. I don't think this will happen personally as I don't think the EU would be that reckless.

Hope not, but they do need agreement from 27 nations. There could be all sorts of people looking for all sorts of conditions.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Hope not, but they do need agreement from 27 nations. There could be all sorts of people looking for all sorts of conditions.

In fairness the EU seem much more adapt at getting agreement from 27 nations than we do from 1 parliament.

 

[Jebus_lives]

HOC may vote no deal out which is not statute legal law, HOC may vote to extend article 50 - the EU may say no leaving a no deal Brexit more likely........

Once more, but in English this time please.

 

[Jebus_lives]

In fairness the EU seem much more adapt at getting agreement from 27 nations than we do from 1 parliament.

It's pretty much a uniform stance though as everyone clearly understands the conditions of membership.

 

[Frang]

our country is an utter disgrace.

can we all agree on that ?