Do you even know what TTIP is ? It's terrible
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Do you even know what TTIP is ? It's terrible
MikeEFC1878x
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Singapore got a free trade deal with EU and so did South Korea why don't they need open borders? Are you saying someone who lives in Germany is not able to fly out to Asia?
That is how people would have to get into our country by flight we are not on a land border with mainland europe why do you think we don't have back bone to negotiate control on borders that is what most people want and until it happens right wing parties like ukip or anyone else who is an opportunist will grow in popularity no matter how extreme...
Boris and Gove promised £100 million per week extra for the NHS that is £5.2 billion per year. They also promised to honour EU funding £4.5 billion and EU money for research and universities another £2 billion. That is £11.7 billion. That is before the promises they have made to the working class to deal with the issues that are affecting them.
MikeEFC1878x
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Yes TTIP would of been a disaster, we can dodge the ttip bullet if we are sovereign, it allows corps to basically sue goves and goverment having no power to stop them, EU is a corp wet dream that is why it loves EU so much.
bobbydigital
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You've seen reality and you haven't liked it so you are clutching at straw after straw.
MikeEFC1878x
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L o l at you implying we couldn't be better off and make an extra 1 + bil with trading with the world not just eu.
MikeEFC1878x
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Singapore, iceland south korea did it, swis will remove free movement in next few years?
The EU would be very unlikely to agree to a free trade deal without free movement of labour. Trade agreements with non-EU countries can of course be done ex-free movement of labour.
MikeEFC1878x
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Truth? reality? you can't handle the truth.. That is why you think we aren't good enough to trade with world bottom line, little englander.
MikeEFC1878x
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Watch Swiss in next few years, that will blow that theory out in the water, it was their political class that let them down.
They need public school broker & an Eton educated Oxford graduate to fight against them sorts .
bobbydigital
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Yes mate, international trade is as simple as being "good enough" and barging round the world making everyone buy our products at whatever price we say and buying anything we want at whatever price we say.
There is no benefit at all to the UK of being part of the EU's single market. Big companies realise this too and all of their operations will definitely stay in the UK. Market crashes?, the question of why they would want to invest here? Don't know why I would worry about that mate, they'll stay.
Can't believe I was being such a little englander and didn't realise this. Should of known all along that isolating ourselves from the global economy was a brilliant idea. Apologies for being so wrong.
MikeEFC1878x
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You really think Boris swayed the vote in labour heartlands that won the brexit vote? Delusional,
If Boris fails the people have spoken and he will be removed next election in 2020.
Even may see UKIP come into power it could become that bad the state of politics, I am sure Boris would want to see majority of people happy so will try his best, unlike the remain side Cameron who asked for nothing and got nothing.
And what would the UK trade? The UK has a very small industrial base - 10% and that would be competing with Germany/France/Italy. Would it be trading its' service sector - that make up something like 80% of economic activity - the Primarks, Poundlands, Tescos, Morrison etc. Including the main driving force behind the UK economy i.e financial services which the UK already trades with the world. The UK has very little to trade with to the rest of the world.
Graphene - a wonder material invented and researched in UMIST is now financed by Chinese and EU money and controlled by the Chinese. Who when the UK asks for a trade agreement the first thing the Chinese will say is, 'will you be putting trade barriers to cheap Chinese steel'. If the UK trade negotiators say yes, the Chinese will show them the door. The same with the US - 'accept TTIP or there's the door.
The UK could trade their agricultural products with the rest of the world mind.
UK exports to the EU will carry a tariff as will EU trade with the UK. Which will mean EU goods will cost more thereby raising inflation, considering the UK imports lots of goods from the EU.
The economic outlook for the UK is not too rosy to put it mildly and that was whether the UK decided to stay or leave the EU. At least inside the EU the economy had little disruption to trade outside that will not be the case.
We can certainly try for those deals mate. However two people have to agree for a deal to be done and I can't imagine the EU will agree. I suspect any deal we now get re-migrants will need to be far more open than the current consensus if we wish to want to remain having access to the common market that is.
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