Stop being so precious ffs. The last time, I recall, you went batsh*** crazy and accused me of bigotry based on my use of the word 'unicorn' to express my incredulity in your trade scenarios. I ignored it and moved on.
This is the second time you've gone on such a tirade. I said nothing offensive to you in my post to warrant that.
Please tell me the factual errors I've made here and then.
The bbc helpfully broke down what Cameron asked for and what he got. I'm sure it's still online. The EU negotiated and gave concessions to the UK while rejecting some points due to concerns from the French and Poland iirc. If they had refused to negotiate or gave no ground at all, I could see your point. But that clearly wasn't the case.
OK, maybe I am being a bit touchy. But I'm not a wum like Pete or a die hard leaver like Joey, I'm somebody who believes it isn't all black and white and post in here looking for genuine discussion on what has become a very sorry situation. I'm even happy to be proved wrong on things. So I get a bit wound up when my points get summarily dismissed or ridiculed.
In this regard, I believe Cameron was quite entitled to approach the EU for concessions. There has been a growing belief in this country that we don't get a fair deal from the EU, partly stoked by elements of the press admittedly, but still many believed they were valid claims. We are the EUs third biggest contributor, around 15% I believe, of which we receive less than a third back towards UK projects. UK citizens only make up around 4% of the EU total employment, of which less than 1% is actually domiciled in the UK. So many people would argue that we were entitled to some extra concessions. As regards the concessions themselves, I remember reading at the time that they agreed some and not others, I don't know whether they hade done enough or not, but the important thing was David Cameron, and he obviously thought not otherwise he wouldn't have invoked the referendum. It was in this where he was wrong in my opinion. He dangled this carrot of a referendum to make sure the Tories won the 2015 election, without knowing whether or not the EU would agree to the concessions he was requesting. It was reckless.
As regards your factual errors, my post that you first responded to posed the question why so many MPs were against the May deal when the backdrop meant that the UK would be in the customs union. You advised me that this only applied to Northern Ireland and not the whole UK . I've since found out that it does apply to all of the UK. NI would also be part of the single market so there could be free movement across the border. But all the UK would continue to trade free within the EC and we would be subject to EU laws relating to this and not able to negotiate our own trade deals with other nations.
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