They are not strictly our 'friends' per se, they are people who do busiess with us and everybody knows there are no friends in business, just acquaintances...as in sorry nothing personal, its purely business.
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The 'cliff edge' rhetoric has been skewed by both sides in all honesty. It's used to illustrate we face an uncertainty but it conjures up only negatives.
The problem, as I see it, is the government only ever prepared for a deal, there isn't been enough planning or assurance around continuity arrangements in the event of a 'no deal'. It could have serious implications on our national infrastructure and our economy and we are largely unprepared.
I accept that arrangements have and are currently being made, but far too much of the difficult questions are, still, being dismissed as 'nonsense', 'non issue' or 'project fear'.
With respect to leave voters, a lot of the argument wasn't presented on detail, it was on rhetoric and rhetoric doesn't prepare you effectively for significant disruption.
Your approach is arrogant and is typical of London-centric thinking. You talk about a bubble in the north? HA! Irony - add to that the town I currently live (or bubble you refer to, one you've never visited) is evidently more representative of the UK than London .
I'm pretty certain my circumstances and income (and that of those who work for my company) is more international than yours so nice try, I'm just injecting humour and being overly dramatic to highlight this point;
No, they really are our friends. There is a huge amount of cooperation done across Europe on science, security, culture, health and business, plus of course the continent has nationals spread all over the place who are nothing if not friends.
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I got a middle finger from him a few days ago.
I'm taking this as a sign that he doesn't give 2 Fs about what happens to any other country especially Ireland after the UK leaves the EU.
The last census put the foreign-born population of your place at 1.5%, whereas Southwark has 35%, so yes, it is more representative of the UK, I'll give you that.
I'm guessing here, but I think your business is part of the "digital service industry" - delivering products and services digitally across borders. This type of business would not IMO be impacted by a deal or no-deal BREXIT scenario. In reality this type of industry should see growth on the back of economic uncertainty due to potential clients looking to move their business into "the cloud" and reduce their own internal costs.
The real impact of Brexit will be felt by the manufacturing and direct sales industry due to the initial impact on trade, labour and access to european markets.
Didn't you know that whats good for London, is good for the whole country.
Eh?
What has 'foreign-born' got to do with it?
Let's backtrack;
You've said I live in a bubble.
Knowsley, where I was born, and the district I currently live voted Leave.
With regards to the referendum, both then are more representative of the UK than London;
It might shock you, but it's actually London that's the bubble...
You really should explore the UK outside of London and Europe - it would open up your mind.
Believe it or not, there's much more complexity to Brexit than 1) little Englanders, 2) those conned by a bus and 3) those who live in a bubble.
Likewise, but a few days is a long time In politics and GOT forums.
And all this cooperation is done free gratis and for nothing, money old bean money aka, business
*shakes head, We really need a sarcastic/Irony font on here.
Sure they are all our friends...on a small scale personal level.
On a national level??
I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous reply Re. business
Equally, and I don't want to appear contrary because I think you make some valid points, you can't dismiss these things.
Particularly the Bus '350m', because that, coupled with the the Brexit Dividend myth, is still believed by around 40% of the UK.
A lot of my work sees commercial and academic cooperation across the EU, and I work with an EC project whose very existence is designed to facilitate that.
Ah, this is the 'any UK based business owner who isn't in uproar over Brexit must be an ulterior motive' ideology right?
No mate. My business isn't cloud based and most of the narrative around Brexit and the UK Digital Industry is pretty negative and there's some very valid concerns but I'm sure it'll come out in the wash.
In truth I'm largely nonchalant on Brexit. I don't know all the answers, I just don't believe it's as big as a disaster as the media and London like to tell us all it is.
Aye, I've no doubt to an extent that's quite right. It's been said numerous times on here that London and other big cities have distanced themselves from the smaller towns and rural areas. That's been the case in most countries across the developed world, but perhaps more than most in London, where around 45% of the population are white British so it's more of a global city than a British city. I'll also readily admit that I've got far more in common with the people I meet on my travels to those cities around Europe than I do with a lot of English people.
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